Well, if true, it wasn't his modus operandi.

Kiffin also fired their DB coach, Marvin Sanders, right BEFORE signing day, and SC fans credit some of their late defections to this move, as well as their linebackers coach Hazelton defecting to join Brian Polian at Nevada.

IRISHVAC wrote: Another crap move by kiffin how can anyone trust thus guy. He waits till after signing day and early enrollment day to fire his coaches because he knew the kids would take off. He really is a used car salesman

He also fired him after he alrdy had 3 of his 4 best DB's signedup
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Well, if true, it wasn't his modus operandi.

Kiffin also fired their DB coach, Marvin Sanders, right BEFORE signing day, and SC fans credit some of their late defections to this move, as well as their linebackers coach Hazelton defecting to join Brian Polian at Nevada.

IRISHVAC wrote: Another crap move by kiffin how can anyone trust thus guy. He waits till after signing day and early enrollment day to fire his coaches because he knew the kids would take off. He really is a used car salesman

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Have to think this will be his last year. Hayden is doing the fair thing and giving him one more year because of the sanctions that he inherited from petey boy. If he doesn't win I have to think he will be out the doar

Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

tsneddon wrote: Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

----probably a good idea.

Oh come on, 64, Notre Dame needs SC and SC needs Notre Dame and it hurts either school big time when the other is on a down cycle.

Remember back when Ray Meyer coached DePaul and they were good year after year, and Notre Dame/DePaul was a guaranteed network TV national game twice a year?

DePaul lost their mojo and that rivalry is beyond moribund now, lucky for that to be on ESPN2 nowadays if on TV at all. The demise of DePaul hurt ND basketball very directly, and the demise of SC would hurt ND football even more.

Just as we have been hurting them by being pathetic in recent years. In the years Oregon State took SC out of the running, a last game of the season win against a top 5 ranked ND team could have gotten them right back into the title game.

Beating a 3-9 team 38-0 helped them not at all.

If those tables are ever turned, it will be the same story for us.

ND needs a strong SC like Superman needs Lex Luthor. And vice versa.

ndalum64 wrote:

tsneddon wrote: Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

----probably a good idea.

Willingham is in the wings waiting to make his big come back!


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tsneddon wrote: Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

No I am thinking Bob Davies or Charlie Weis

NDIRISH1969 wrote: Willingham is in the wings waiting to make his big come back!


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tsneddon wrote: Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

I love Kiffen.  I hope he stays at USC for life!  Kiffen is to ND as what Weis was to USC.  A win win situation!  Cheat on!!!

tsneddon wrote: No I am thinking Bob Davies or Charlie Weis

NDIRISH1969 wrote: Willingham is in the wings waiting to make his big come back!


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tsneddon wrote: Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

Except Kiff has at least beaten ND...did weis?

He almost did, and was given an extention, not bad.

Fallen27 wrote: I love Kiffen.  I hope he stays at USC for life!  Kiffen is to ND as what Weis was to USC.  A win win situation!  Cheat on!!!

tsneddon wrote: No I am thinking Bob Davies or Charlie Weis

NDIRISH1969 wrote: Willingham is in the wings waiting to make his big come back!


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tsneddon wrote: Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

There is supposedly mutual interest between Polamalu and the Rams. Jeff Fisher is an SC alum.

I can't imagine being the OC is an interesting job without play calling duties. Might ding them in recruiting a bit, but they've still Ogre and Tee Martin, they'll be fine.

tsneddon wrote: No I am thinking Bob Davies or Charlie Weis

NDIRISH1969 wrote: Willingham is in the wings waiting to make his big come back!


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tsneddon wrote: Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

Nah, you need Willingham, more golf courses in your neck of the woods...

good call, I will make a phone call tonight

C5hydro wrote:

tsneddon wrote: No I am thinking Bob Davies or Charlie Weis

NDIRISH1969 wrote: Willingham is in the wings waiting to make his big come back!


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tsneddon wrote: Well crap, we are in such dire straits, I am gonna call Haden and Kiff and offer up the idea to cancel the season and disband the team for 4 years and have everyone one of our kids go wear baby blue or irish green and navy...

KP wanted more say in the offense, and we don't know what more is going on. Hard to say unless we are a fly on the wall. So with that being said, how can I pass judgement. Maybe Kiff will take the fall for this, maybe KP wasn't a great coach but yet a great recruiter and Kiff has to win now so maybe he is doing what he thinks best for the program right now...who knows.

Here is to 0-12 next year, 1-11 the following and 0-12 to the following and then we will shut it all down....you know, cause the sky is falling and all

Nah, you need Willingham, more golf courses in your neck of the woods...