I may have missed the point of the question slightly.

Yes, I would say people on this site have increased my appreciation for ND as a cultural whatever.

I still think of ND as a bunch of churchy country clubbers (with the emphasis on the latter) compared to Spartans who, by virtue of numbers and lack of official religion, are automatically far more diverse, but that stereotype has certainly softened in my mind and definitely for the better.

GaviND wrote: Okay, Lumbergh, I am curious:

You are, admittedly, pretty much split between MSU and ND as gas as football fandom goes (correct me if I am misunderstood).

Has the time you spent on this site increased your appreciation for ND or has it not changed much?

lumbergh wrote: I may have missed the point of the question slightly.

Yes, I would say people on this site have increased my appreciation for ND as a cultural whatever.

I still think of ND as a bunch of churchy country clubbers (with the emphasis on the latter) compared to Spartans who, by virtue of numbers and lack of official religion, are automatically far more diverse, but that stereotype has certainly softened in my mind and definitely for the better.

Posting here has definitely opened my mind to the diversity of the ND fan base. However, it never really mattered to me one way or the other. I suppose if I came here and everyone that posted was talking about things that I had no interest in, then I'd be turned off to some degree or another.

Overall, I don't care if I have philosophical/moral/religious/political differences with other ND fans because it rarely matters come Saturday.

No, you nailed what I was looking for.

For me, Notre Dame has always been número uno. Love the Pats, Sox, Celts and Bruins, but Notre Dame has always been the can't miss team -- no matter how they were faring and I feel like the community here has only made that appreciation greater.

Was curious if your interactions here drew you in more than it did in the past.

Your answer was excellent.

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--- lumbergh wrote:

I may have missed the point of the question slightly.

Yes, I would say people on this site have increased my appreciation for ND as a cultural whatever.

I still think of ND as a bunch of churchy country clubbers (with the emphasis on the latter) compared to Spartans who, by virtue of numbers and lack of official religion, are automatically far more diverse, but that stereotype has certainly softened in my mind and definitely for the better.

GaviND wrote: Okay, Lumbergh, I am curious:

You are, admittedly, pretty much split between MSU and ND as gas as football fandom goes (correct me if I am misunderstood).

Has the time you spent on this site increased your appreciation for ND or has it not changed much?

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i can see how this might be, but i have to say that my experience has been sort-of the opposite of yours. this forum has certainly made me think of  notre dame fans as more elitist, more conservative, and more sanctimonious than how i had previously perceived us to be. anyway, i'm glad if your experience here has made you feel better about us.

lumbergh wrote: I may have missed the point of the question slightly.

Yes, I would say people on this site have increased my appreciation for ND as a cultural whatever.

I still think of ND as a bunch of churchy country clubbers (with the emphasis on the latter) compared to Spartans who, by virtue of numbers and lack of official religion, are automatically far more diverse, but that stereotype has certainly softened in my mind and definitely for the better.

GaviND wrote: Okay, Lumbergh, I am curious:

You are, admittedly, pretty much split between MSU and ND as gas as football fandom goes (correct me if I am misunderstood).

Has the time you spent on this site increased your appreciation for ND or has it not changed much?

I can relate to this.  I love UK Basketball and ND Football.  Although Its slightly different from your situation It Is similar.  Ive noticed that ND fans and alum are good people but tend to be more judgmental and holier than thou.  Kentucky fans are more down to earth middle class personality who have more of a sense of humor.  Both teams fans are stubborn beyond belief.  However, by coming on here for how ever many years Ive been on here has taught me both fan bases have that holier than thou attitude sometimes.  ND just gets a worse reputation for It because of their past and how they are portrayed In the media. 

lumbergh wrote: I may have missed the point of the question slightly.

Yes, I would say people on this site have increased my appreciation for ND as a cultural whatever.

I still think of ND as a bunch of churchy country clubbers (with the emphasis on the latter) compared to Spartans who, by virtue of numbers and lack of official religion, are automatically far more diverse, but that stereotype has certainly softened in my mind and definitely for the better.

GaviND wrote: Okay, Lumbergh, I am curious:

You are, admittedly, pretty much split between MSU and ND as gas as football fandom goes (correct me if I am misunderstood).

Has the time you spent on this site increased your appreciation for ND or has it not changed much?