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Re: Its NDs fault the Big10 sux

Posted: 2/10/2013 10:50 PM

Re: Its NDs fault the Big10 sux 


I'll say it again, the future of conference realignment is anyone's guess.

If the PAC expands to 16, the Mtn West, WAC and Big 12 plus BYU will be in play for those 4 slots.

If the B1G and SEC expand to 16, the ACC, Big East, Big 12 and ND will be in play for those 4 slots.

I can tell you with certainty that if one of them moves to 16, the other 2 will not be far behind. When the dust settles from that I think there will be a conglomeration conference made up mostly of former ACC and Big 12 members and I think that this conference will most likely be headlined by Texas and Oklahoma.

unc86 wrote: More specifically, it makes no sense that one of your lifeboats would be the B12.

B12 has LOST Nebraska, Colorado, aTm and Mizzou. Added WVU and TCU.

ACC has lost only UMD and ADDED Cuse, Pitt, ND* and UofL.

B12 is asking ACC for a scheduling partnership. Not the other way around.

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GoldRushND wrote:
ndirish951 wrote: Living in Ohio I can assure you that there is no reasoning with the average B1G fan. They cannot comprehend the fact that we do not want to join that conference. The ACC may be a sinking ship but I think ND would be more like to join a retooled Big 12 before they joined the B1G simply because of the rules on television contracts.

Also, I'm not sure how the B1G fans can blame weather for their bad recruiting performances when ND, OSU and Michigan were all concensus top 10 classes and all 3 of those schools were able to pull southern kids up north.

I don't get how the ACC is suddenly a sinking ship because they lost one school (Maryland) who was in deep financial straits and made the move literally only for the TV revenue.
I said the ACC may be a sinking ship not that it is. The future of conference realignment is anyone's guess. It's pretty clear that the B1G and SEC aren't going anywhere and if those conferences choose to expand I think the ACC would be cherry picked.

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Posted: 2/11/2013 9:55 PM

Re: Its NDs fault the Big10 sux 



ndirish951 wrote: I'll say it again, the future of conference realignment is anyone's guess.

If the PAC expands to 16, the Mtn West, WAC and Big 12 plus BYU will be in play for those 4 slots.
A couple of observations:

1.  The Pac-whatever will never invite BYU.  ND will join the B1G before BYU gets in the Pac-12.  Barring a Road to Damascus type conversion by the Pac presidents, it's a non-starter and always will be.  It has nothing to do with BYU's athletic program, facilities and certainly not BYUtv.  Instead, it has everything to do with BYU being a religiously affiliated school, which is anathema in places like Palo Alto and Berkeley, and its no-Sunday-play rule, which is as absolute and non negotiable as anything on this planet.  BYU will drop intercollegiate athletics altogether before ever agreeing to play on Sundays.  Compare that to something one president (Stanford, IIRC) said about 10-15 years ago, in a veiled reference to BYU:  "We'll play any time.  We'll offend anyone."  If it were solely about athletics, BYU would have gotten the nod over Utah.

2.  If the Pac can't persuade Texas and Oklahoma to come, their expansion options are pretty much walled off.  UCLA and Cal will never admit a Cal State school such as Fresno State, San Jose State or San Diego State.  Boise State is a non-starter.  Ditto the rest of the MWC except for possibly UNLV, if it had a much better stadium.  The WAC just completed its final football season and is not an option.  That pretty much means its a Big-12 raid or nothing.  Given the sweetheart deal (unequal revenue sharing, plus the Longhorn Network) that Texas has, I'd bet on nothing.
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