I'd hope ND would give up football before joining those two.. (Big Ten or the SEC)

I'd find it hard to be a fan of ND if they joined one of those conferences.

Just a conference thing or still mad about Fielding Yost?

Albi16 wrote: I'd hope ND would give up football before joining those two.. (Big Ten or the SEC)

I'd find it hard to be a fan of ND if they joined one of those conferences.

conference thing & I live in MI. I have enough UofM & MSU fans (some I call my friends) around here telling me all the reasons Notre Dame needs to join the B1G. But hate on ND every chance they get.

I never met Fielding Yost, but I understand he was diffiCULT to deal with unless you agreed with him. I don't appreciate how he treated ND while he was at UofM, but he's dead by now... I think.

Yeah, FTR I don't care to actually see ND join a conference.  If that day ever does come, though, I'd be okay with either the Big Ten or ACC.

And as a fellow Michigander, I also tend to scoff at both Wolverines and my fellow Spartans who demand either that ND join the Big Ten (or another conference) or that the Big Ten ban games against ND.

If anything, those games should be seen as favors by ND to them.

Albi16 wrote: conference thing & I live in MI. I have enough UofM & MSU fans (some I call my friends) around here telling me all the reasons Notre Dame needs to join the B1G. But hate on ND every chance they get.

I never met Fielding Yost, but I understand he was diffiCULT to deal with unless you agreed with him. I don't appreciate how he treated ND while he was at UofM, but he's dead by now... I think.

Albi16 wrote: conference thing & I live in MI. I have enough UofM & MSU fans (some I call my friends) around here telling me all the reasons Notre Dame needs to join the B1G. But hate on ND every chance they get.

I never met Fielding Yost, but I understand he was diffiCULT to deal with unless you agreed with him. I don't appreciate how he treated ND while he was at UofM, but he's dead by now... I think.

Nice t-shirt

let's go ahead and stop saying "being in cold weather regions" has anything to do with the big ten stinking. 

Boise State is located in an ICE BOX of a region and they are doing just fine. 

Michigan and Notre Dame are just as far north as the rest of the big ten... they are doing fine.

Oregon is further north than the entire big ten... they are doing just fine. 

Its coaching and the lack of involvement by the schools to create excellent venues.  Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota (even though its new) these vensues are awful. 


The big ten needs to challenge the SEC and ACC teams to Home and Homes.  If they wont play... then go on tv and call them pu$$ies for not accepting the games. 

The SEC and ACC need to play in the north if they think they are better then the north.   If they wont come north...  then boycott going south.

remmuh80 wrote: let's go ahead and stop saying "being in cold weather regions" has anything to do with the big ten stinking. 

Boise State is located in an ICE BOX of a region and they are doing just fine. 

Michigan and Notre Dame are just as far north as the rest of the big ten... they are doing fine.

Oregon is further north than the entire big ten... they are doing just fine. 

Its coaching and the lack of involvement by the schools to create excellent venues.  Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota (even though its new) these vensues are awful. 


The big ten needs to challenge the SEC and ACC teams to Home and Homes.  If they wont play... then go on tv and call them pu$$ies for not accepting the games. 

The SEC and ACC need to play in the north if they think they are better then the north.   If they wont come north...  then boycott going south.

While the Big-10+ or any northern can't/shouldn't use cold weather as an excuse for poor play, the schools you used don't even come close to northern school winter temps.

Oregon maybe further north than the entire BIG 10+, but they don't get the snow/cold that the BIG-10+ gets on a normal basis.
As far as their temps go, they average between 34-38 Nov-Feb (record-12)

As for Boise, compared to Madison , Wi, they are much warmer from Nov-Feb with temps ranging between 24-32 (record -25) for lows vs Madison with lows averaging 10-28 (record -38).
And I would guess that Mich & Minn may get even colder.

Aye.  Oregon is a tropical paradise compared to the Upper Midwest and Eugene does not have a higher latitude than all Big Ten Schools.

Also South Bend is south of a number of Big Ten schools.  I may have get Remmuh a nice map.
 

C5hydro wrote:

remmuh80 wrote: let's go ahead and stop saying "being in cold weather regions" has anything to do with the big ten stinking. 

Boise State is located in an ICE BOX of a region and they are doing just fine. 

Michigan and Notre Dame are just as far north as the rest of the big ten... they are doing fine.

Oregon is further north than the entire big ten... they are doing just fine. 

Its coaching and the lack of involvement by the schools to create excellent venues.  Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota (even though its new) these vensues are awful. 


The big ten needs to challenge the SEC and ACC teams to Home and Homes.  If they wont play... then go on tv and call them pu$$ies for not accepting the games. 

The SEC and ACC need to play in the north if they think they are better then the north.   If they wont come north...  then boycott going south.

While the Big-10+ or any northern can't/shouldn't use cold weather as an excuse for poor play, the schools you used don't even come close to northern school winter temps.

Oregon maybe further north than the entire BIG 10+, but they don't get the snow/cold that the BIG-10+ gets on a normal basis.
As far as their temps go, they average between 34-38 Nov-Feb (record-12)

As for Boise, compared to Madison , Wi, they are much warmer from Nov-Feb with temps ranging between 24-32 (record -25) for lows vs Madison with lows averaging 10-28 (record -38).
And I would guess that Mich & Minn may get even colder.