http://bleacherreport.com/arti...al-championship

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa...l-championship/

Two different articles and not just bleacher.  I wonder what is going on here?

NotreDame461 wrote: http://bleacherreport.com/arti...al-championship

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa...l-championship/

Two different articles and not just bleacher.  I wonder what is going on here?

Nothing, these guys are scum snake oil salesman, man. My lord, hey you can get you some chips place them on your body and bounce the cell phone waves off, so they don't mess with your brain. Deer antler velvet, shet is a joke, you have to inject hgh, my god. He hi jacked those kids three days before the title game, in a hotel room in new orleans, where the players were staying and somehow in those three days the whole team became freaks of nature do to some chips and deer antler velvet. These guys are scums of the earth. Secretly video taped the kids so if they won the game he could say that his products are why bama won. Oh yea here is few video's from the Deer antler sellers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...SxYYnVfkDyOv6jA He is talking about bama ex starting center, from last year. Real winner here boys. Here is talking about how his products help LSU beat bama in Ttown. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...SxYYnVfkDyOv6jA. well I found this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...SxYYnVfkDyOv6jA, this is who SI.com put all their faith, these bullshet artist.

Read this link and you will know a bit more. As usual, BR let's others do their work for them, and they have zero journalistic integrity. 

http://www.al.com/alabamafootb...t_river_default

NotreDame461 wrote: http://bleacherreport.com/arti...al-championship

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa...l-championship/

Two different articles and not just bleacher.  I wonder what is going on here?

that's true Doc, but I wouldn't put it past Bammer.  Wouldn't be surprised.  their RBs are the size of 5 star LBs.

DocSoloman wrote: Read this link and you will know a bit more. As usual, BR let's others do their work for them, and they have zero journalistic integrity. 

http://www.al.com/alabamafootb...t_river_default

NotreDame461 wrote: http://bleacherreport.com/arti...al-championship

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa...l-championship/

Two different articles and not just bleacher.  I wonder what is going on here?

Bleacher Report is a joke.

First off, I didn't read either of those articles and I probably won't. If there is evidence that any of Bama's players were on steroids, the story will come in something far more reputable than Bleacher Report or that other site.

Second, and I do mean this, I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. However, I also wouldn't be surprised if we find out some of our players past or present are on some form of PEDs as well. Players cheat. That's just the way it is and players will continue to find ways to cheat.

Third, Bama still won the game....convincingly. Nothing is going to change that. When no one has been able to find a shred of evidence of Auburn buying Cam Newton, then I'm convinced that no one will ever be able to prove that any of Bama's players were juiced up....but if they do, I'm sure Manti Te'o being duped by a sick dude would still be a bigger story.

sladdy66 wrote: Bleacher Report is a joke.

When there's smoke, there's fire. It merely mentions what SI has reported.

sgvdomer wrote:

sladdy66 wrote: Bleacher Report is a joke.

When there's smoke, there's fire. It merely mentions what SI has reported.

Deer velvet spray, com'on dude. Do you really believe that bama beat LSU because three backup players may have spayed some deer antler velvet spray under their tounge two days before the game, please.

Its not a case of did Bama beat XYZ because of deer spray, its that there is a chance the team that the nation has known as a powerhouse, is partially powered by illegal substances.

How many people hate Ray Lewis more now today than they did Monday? IDK, but I am sure there are some. Just because he is now linked to this deer stuff.

I find the whole thing funny. What next? Smoke dried elephant dung for a quicker recovery time?

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

sladdy66 wrote: Bleacher Report is a joke.

When there's smoke, there's fire. It merely mentions what SI has reported.

Deer velvet spray, com'on dude. Do you really believe that bama beat LSU because three backup players may have spayed some deer antler velvet spray under their tounge two days before the game, please.

Perhaps the deer velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, but I'm merely pointing out
the fact that anytime there's a rumor in the sporting world lately, it has been proven to be true. So stay tuned for this one if it picks up steam.

I have heard that 60% of the time the Deer Spray works every time!

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

sladdy66 wrote: Bleacher Report is a joke.

When there's smoke, there's fire. It merely mentions what SI has reported.

Deer velvet spray, com'on dude. Do you really believe that bama beat LSU because three backup players may have spayed some deer antler velvet spray under their tounge two days before the game, please.

THIS.

This got a little bit more interesting.  

http://espn.go.com/college-foo...ers-use-product

it wouldnt shock me 1 bit at all..

NotreDame461 wrote: This got a little bit more interesting.  

http://espn.go.com/college-foo...ers-use-product

Dude, so it is true the whole team sprayed this under their tounge before the game, guess what, that is not going to help anybody. You get the same amouth of NCGI from eating a steak and or drinking a half gallon of milk. That is why you will never fail a test. The NCAA can not punish a team or player unless the player has failed a drug test and the fact players are tested before and after each title game they play in and passed the ncaa drug test, they will not get into in trouble. THis is why it is so dumb, that fact is this deer stuff should not be banned, it offers no benefit to the player. Hell creatine is a much better to use. Creatine and protein are pretty effective. They also say they sold the deer antler spray to UGA,LSU,and Ole Miss this year, but did not sell any to bama players this year. They cut off bama this year so Ole Miss,LSU, or UGA would beat them, I am not telling you the truth.

sgvdomer wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

sladdy66 wrote: Bleacher Report is a joke.

When there's smoke, there's fire. It merely mentions what SI has reported.

Deer velvet spray, com'on dude. Do you really believe that bama beat LSU because three backup players may have spayed some deer antler velvet spray under their tounge two days before the game, please.

Perhaps the deer velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, but I'm merely pointing out
the fact that anytime there's a rumor in the sporting world lately, it has been proven to be true. So stay tuned for this one if it picks up steam.

You no why Deer Velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, because it cannot deliver HGH to the body. The only way to deliver HGH to body is thru a injection. The Velvet stuff is like eating steak or drinking Milk since both carry the ban substance of NCGI. Steak and Milk carry the same ban substance that is why no one will ever fail a test.
  I listen to these guys this morning and must say they made alot of sense, they said, they Had no Idea why NCAA banned Deer velvet spray, since you will never fail a drug test of anykind taking it and then some doctor from John  Hopkins came on and said the samething, they did. They compared it creatine when they banned it and they had to lift the ban because no one could test for creatine and he says no one can test for natural NCGI.

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

sladdy66 wrote: Bleacher Report is a joke.

When there's smoke, there's fire. It merely mentions what SI has reported.

Deer velvet spray, com'on dude. Do you really believe that bama beat LSU because three backup players may have spayed some deer antler velvet spray under their tounge two days before the game, please.

Perhaps the deer velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, but I'm merely pointing out
the fact that anytime there's a rumor in the sporting world lately, it has been proven to be true. So stay tuned for this one if it picks up steam.

You no why Deer Velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, because it cannot deliver HGH to the body. The only way to deliver HGH to body is thru a injection. The Velvet stuff is like eating steak or drinking Milk since both carry the ban substance of NCGI. Steak and Milk carry the same ban substance that is why no one will ever fail a test.
  I listen to these guys this morning and must say they made alot of sense, they said, they Had no Idea why NCAA banned Deer velvet spray, since you will never fail a drug test of anykind taking it and then some doctor from John  Hopkins came on and said the samething, they did. They compared it creatine when they banned it and they had to lift the ban because no one could test for creatine and he says no one can test for natural NCGI.

Let's point out the facts:
1.  Deer antler velvet is essentially a growth hormone called "insulin-like growth
     factor 1," or IGF-1.
2.  It is not approved by the FDA because not enough research has been done.
3.  It is banned by the NFL.

It IS a growth hormone. Whether or not it really helps humans has yet to be determined. Nevertheless, why would a future NFL Hall of Famer risk his health
taking this if it's completely worthless?

sgvdomer wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

sladdy66 wrote: Bleacher Report is a joke.

When there's smoke, there's fire. It merely mentions what SI has reported.

Deer velvet spray, com'on dude. Do you really believe that bama beat LSU because three backup players may have spayed some deer antler velvet spray under their tounge two days before the game, please.

Perhaps the deer velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, but I'm merely pointing out
the fact that anytime there's a rumor in the sporting world lately, it has been proven to be true. So stay tuned for this one if it picks up steam.

You no why Deer Velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, because it cannot deliver HGH to the body. The only way to deliver HGH to body is thru a injection. The Velvet stuff is like eating steak or drinking Milk since both carry the ban substance of NCGI. Steak and Milk carry the same ban substance that is why no one will ever fail a test.
  I listen to these guys this morning and must say they made alot of sense, they said, they Had no Idea why NCAA banned Deer velvet spray, since you will never fail a drug test of anykind taking it and then some doctor from John  Hopkins came on and said the samething, they did. They compared it creatine when they banned it and they had to lift the ban because no one could test for creatine and he says no one can test for natural NCGI.

Let's point out the facts:
1.  Deer antler velvet is essentially a growth hormone called "insulin-like growth
     factor 1," or IGF-1.
2.  It is not approved by the FDA because not enough research has been done.
3.  It is banned by the NFL.

It IS a growth hormone. Whether or not it really helps humans has yet to be determined. Nevertheless, why would a future NFL Hall of Famer risk his health
taking this if it's completely worthless?

I. one cannot deliver HGH/IGF I to the body thru a oraly spray, it is medically impossible. That is why you could take a thousand bottles of this stuff in a week and you would not fail a test, period. Steak,Milk,Fish all have IGF I in them are we going to banned those foods and drinks, of course not. You will also intake more IGF I from a steak than three shots of the Velvet stuff.
II. Dude, name anything you buy in the GNC that is FDA approved not much of anything.
III. It is banned but it cannot be tested, because you cannot deliver HGH/IGF I thru a oral spray. Remember Creatine was banned for awhile also and the banned was lifted because there was no way to test for it.
IIII. I don't think it has been proven Lewis took any of it, he more than likely took the chips but I careless, antler velvet spray is safe, the chinese have been using it for over a thousand years in some form. THis is like Yomhibe bark, Gurana herb, horney goat weed, stuff that has been around for thousand of years.

I don't believe this guy is telling the truth.  But if he is...IT DOESN"T MATTER WHETHER THIS CRAP WORKS OR NOT.

If the players really took this, and they thought they were doing something outside of the rules to gain an advantage...does it really matter that they are suckers?  It tells me that if someone came into their locker room with something that ACTUALLY made a difference, they would take it as long as they felt like they could beat a drug test.

Jetman is working himself into a lather on this, it's pretty hilarious

Common sense tells us that the schools mentioned in the latest news(Bama, LSU) have rosters full of kids using PED's. unfortunately, common sense is not common practice

Common sense also tells us that MANY NFL players use PED's

I have a solution to the antler debate, I ordered a crap load of it once I heard it was banned by the NFL. I'll let you all know how it works




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--- Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

Jetmanlee wrote:

sgvdomer wrote:

sladdy66 wrote: Bleacher Report is a joke.

When there's smoke, there's fire. It merely mentions what SI has reported.

Deer velvet spray, com'on dude. Do you really believe that bama beat LSU because three backup players may have spayed some deer antler velvet spray under their tounge two days before the game, please.

Perhaps the deer velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, but I'm merely pointing out
the fact that anytime there's a rumor in the sporting world lately, it has been proven to be true. So stay tuned for this one if it picks up steam.

You no why Deer Velvet spray is a tad ridiculous, because it cannot deliver HGH to the body. The only way to deliver HGH to body is thru a injection. The Velvet stuff is like eating steak or drinking Milk since both carry the ban substance of NCGI. Steak and Milk carry the same ban substance that is why no one will ever fail a test.
  I listen to these guys this morning and must say they made alot of sense, they said, they Had no Idea why NCAA banned Deer velvet spray, since you will never fail a drug test of anykind taking it and then some doctor from John  Hopkins came on and said the samething, they did. They compared it creatine when they banned it and they had to lift the ban because no one could test for creatine and he says no one can test for natural NCGI.

Let's point out the facts:
1.  Deer antler velvet is essentially a growth hormone called "insulin-like growth
     factor 1," or IGF-1.
2.  It is not approved by the FDA because not enough research has been done.
3.  It is banned by the NFL.

It IS a growth hormone. Whether or not it really helps humans has yet to be determined. Nevertheless, why would a future NFL Hall of Famer risk his health
taking this if it's completely worthless?

I. one cannot deliver HGH/IGF I to the body thru a oraly spray, it is medically impossible. That is why you could take a thousand bottles of this stuff in a week and you would not fail a test, period. Steak,Milk,Fish all have IGF I in them are we going to banned those foods and drinks, of course not. You will also intake more IGF I from a steak than three shots of the Velvet stuff.
II. Dude, name anything you buy in the GNC that is FDA approved not much of anything.
III. It is banned but it cannot be tested, because you cannot deliver HGH/IGF I thru a oral spray. Remember Creatine was banned for awhile also and the banned was lifted because there was no way to test for it.
IIII. I don't think it has been proven Lewis took any of it, he more than likely took the chips but I careless, antler velvet spray is safe, the chinese have been using it for over a thousand years in some form. THis is like Yomhibe bark, Gurana herb, horney goat weed, stuff that has been around for thousand of years.

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