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How long should the Chargers wait for Vincent Brown?

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Posted: 08/21/2014 6:49 AM

How long should the Chargers wait for Vincent Brown? 


Forgive me if this topic has already been started but buried somewhere.

This is a valid article / question...

http://boltbeat.com/2014/08/20/how-long-should-the-chargers-wait-for-vincent-brown/

Is he still eligible for the Practice Squad?
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Posted: 08/21/2014 6:58 AM

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If Brown can't get on to the field this preseason and make some heads turn like Inman has already, then I have a hard time handiing over the 5th WR spot to him when Tutu has done more in the NFL than him (Always healthy, and delivers when called upon with big time plays), and we have some promising talent with the new rookie additions.

 

I hope Brown makes it, but he has to EARN it IMO....  I'd hate to see someone like Tutu or another talent cut, in the hopes that Brown can get his act together healthwise, and performance wise.

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Posted: 08/21/2014 7:18 AM

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I think it's known Doc, you and I are Big TuTu supporters, And I'm with you on the subject, VB needs to show up quick if he has any shot, and TuTu needs a Decent shot to stick, he really is Clutch!




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Posted: 08/21/2014 8:56 AM

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I'm in the same boat with you guys. Tutu better make this team. VB has been givin the benefit of the doubt since he's been here and the one year he had his chance, he didn't produce.
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Posted: 08/21/2014 12:27 PM

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My belief is that it's the rookie Herndon, and not anyone else, that is challenging for VB's spot.  At this point, barring injury, I'd honestly be quite surprised if either Inman or Tutu isn't on this year's team.  But we shall see...

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Posted: 08/21/2014 6:13 PM

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If VB can't get on the field then I would be surprised if he ends up on IR. Inman and Ajirotitu make the final 53. IMO the 6th receiver spot will come down between Herndon and Reese.
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Posted: 08/21/2014 6:51 PM

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WR position has great competition going on.  Unless VB is fully healthy, I would put him on IR with designation to return later in the season.
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Posted: 08/22/2014 5:37 AM

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From 8/22/14

Unlikely to play this preseason, Vincent Brown was absent from individual drills and hasn’t practiced since straining a calf muscle July 25.

Brown had 41 catches last year and played all 18 games, giving the Chargers reason to believe he could catch up fast once healthy.

“He’s a dependable guy who has good feet, runs good routes — and he’s a pro,” offensive coordinator Frank Reich said. “So, he’s the kind of guy that you really don’t even think twice about. When he steps in, you expect him to be there and make the plays he’s made over the two (seasons) he’s been here.”

www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/a...s-field-status/




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Posted: 08/22/2014 6:07 AM

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Sounds like he's destined for the IR or PUP so we can keep him.


viseman61 wrote: From 8/22/14

Unlikely to play this preseason, Vincent Brown was absent from individual drills and hasn’t practiced since straining a calf muscle July 25.

Brown had 41 catches last year and played all 18 games, giving the Chargers reason to believe he could catch up fast once healthy.

“He’s a dependable guy who has good feet, runs good routes — and he’s a pro,” offensive coordinator Frank Reich said. “So, he’s the kind of guy that you really don’t even think twice about. When he steps in, you expect him to be there and make the plays he’s made over the two (seasons) he’s been here.”

www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/a...s-field-status/
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Posted: 08/22/2014 7:20 AM

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Sounds like from what Reich's saying, VB is on the team, one way or the other, just waiting, wow he must of made an
Impression on Frank somewhere!

Reich said the expectation for receiver Vincent Brown, who has been out since July 25 with a calf strain, is to jump back into the receiver rotation once he’s healthy.

"Vince is a real pro," Reich said. "And we anticipate that he’s working as hard as he can to get healthy. He had a productive year last year. We had a pretty productive offensive year last year, and Vince was a big part of that.




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Last edited 08/22/2014 7:23 AM by viseman61

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Posted: 08/22/2014 10:09 AM

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I agree....sounds like VB is on the roster but more than likely he'll start the regular season on the PUP list which will make him eligible to come back after Week 6. That will give us an open spot to give to a healthy WR who will have a 6 week opportunity to make an impact. My guess is our opening day WR depth chart will look like this:

Allen
Floyd
Royal
Inman
Tutu
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Posted: 08/22/2014 12:15 PM

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I think Browns days as a Charger are numbered.  Both Inman and Tutu have shown they more than adequately fill his role in this offense.  In fact they are better fits because they can run the 7-9 routes better than Brown.  V. Brown is a classic Z/Y WR who really is a good fit for an offense like Norv's.  He's an under 20 yd possession receiver.  He simply lacks the deep speed to play those deeper routes with any consistent success.

That final 6th WR spot IMO is between Herndon and Reese. Herndon is clearly the more polished of the two and can contribute this year.  But there is no doubt of Reese's potential.  I think they will keep Herndon and try to sneak Reese onto the PS for a year.

IMO it was a mistake not to trade Brown earlier in the year to someone like the Browns who have no one..  Now they might not get anything for him. Injuries are the worst thing for a player in a contract year.  But I see him in TN or MN or perhaps Carolina, either later this year or next year for sure.
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Posted: 08/22/2014 1:38 PM

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Beach honestly with the year VB had last year, what kind of trade value did he have?


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I think Browns days as a Charger are numbered.  Both Inman and Tutu have shown they more than adequately fill his role in this offense.  In fact they are better fits because they can run the 7-9 routes better than Brown.  V. Brown is a classic Z/Y WR who really is a good fit for an offense like Norv's.  He's an under 20 yd possession receiver.  He simply lacks the deep speed to play those deeper routes with any consistent success.

That final 6th WR spot IMO is between Herndon and Reese. Herndon is clearly the more polished of the two and can contribute this year.  But there is no doubt of Reese's potential.  I think they will keep Herndon and try to sneak Reese onto the PS for a year.

IMO it was a mistake not to trade Brown earlier in the year to someone like the Browns who have no one..  Now they might not get anything for him. Injuries are the worst thing for a player in a contract year.  But I see him in TN or MN or perhaps Carolina, either later this year or next year for sure.

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Posted: 08/22/2014 1:41 PM

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Is Brown in a contract year?  I can't remember.
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Posted: 08/22/2014 1:55 PM

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Is Brown in a contract year?  I can't remember.

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Posted: 08/22/2014 3:45 PM

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1ARTIST wrote: I agree....sounds like VB is on the roster but more than likely he'll start the regular season on the PUP list which will make him eligible to come back after Week 6. That will give us an open spot to give to a healthy WR who will have a 6 week opportunity to make an impact. My guess is our opening day WR depth chart will look like this:

Allen
Floyd
Royal
Inman
Tutu

You have five listed. Other source suggest 6.

This is the last year on Browns contract and he had been injured most of the time. I expect he will eith be on the PUP list or IR for the season. He could be gone if the new ans currert WR perform well.

1. Allen
2. Floyd
3. Royal
4. Tutu
5. Inman
6. Chancellor, Hatfield, Herndon, Reese, or Torrence (probably come down to Herndon or Reese for the final spot)




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Posted: 08/22/2014 4:07 PM

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And of course our hidden WR Green, Ha Ha
When Reich gets his full potential in the mix, yowza!




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Posted: 08/26/2014 11:21 AM

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Shooooot, this is the guy that is supposed to make everyone forget about Vincent Jackson........


Man, did 1 freakin thing the AJ drones said come true?

I love that all those drones got to melt right back into the true fan base like nothing happened all those years.

But I'm still here to bring up how terribly wrong you all were. Enjoy!
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Posted: 08/27/2014 12:38 AM

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Vincent Brown was never a replacement for VJ.  He was always a Z / Y WR whose forte was the short to medium possession routes.  That is to say he was looked at as a replacement for an oft injured Floyd.

In Nov's offense he was the perfect fit for the role in which he was drafted to play.  But in McCoy's offense, he's a very poor fit. I simply don't think they will release a WR who has shown real potential in this offensive scheme or a young guy with big upsides for a guy that probably will be gone next year anyway.

Right now he could be the #2 starter in Cleveland, Minnesota, TN and Carolina.  The coaches in 3 of the 4 teams know Brown and know how to use him.  What keeps him from being trade-able is his health status.

And no Brown is not PS eligible.
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Posted: 08/29/2014 10:25 AM

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If you went back and looked at posts there are posters here today who said VB was going to make us all forget about VJ. That Floyd would take VJ's #1 position with ease and VB would make us all forget we just lost our #1 receiver for a pack of aj dogs. 

They are still here posting. 

I think you can guess what I was saying back then......


beachbolt wrote: Vincent Brown was never a replacement for VJ.  He was always a Z / Y WR whose forte was the short to medium possession routes.  That is to say he was looked at as a replacement for an oft injured Floyd.

In Nov's offense he was the perfect fit for the role in which he was drafted to play.  But in McCoy's offense, he's a very poor fit. I simply don't think they will release a WR who has shown real potential in this offensive scheme or a young guy with big upsides for a guy that probably will be gone next year anyway.

Right now he could be the #2 starter in Cleveland, Minnesota, TN and Carolina.  The coaches in 3 of the 4 teams know Brown and know how to use him.  What keeps him from being trade-able is his health status.

And no Brown is not PS eligible.
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