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'Projected 53 man Roster' (Aug 30)

Posted: 07/19/2014 7:06 PM

'Projected 53 man Roster' (Aug 30) 


One of my favorite preseason fodder items, guessing the Roster, this is from our ESPN Beat Writer for the Chargers
Eric Williams, why in the HELL would you try this before TC beats me, and he only wants to carry 5 WR's
I would dump English for Keiser straight up,
Have fun Guys!

San Diego Chargers' projected roster
By:Eric D. Williams, ESPN

Quarterbacks (3)

Philip Rivers
Kellen Clemens
Brad Sorensen
The Chargers kept three quarterbacks on the active roster last year, but could pick up a roster spot if they feel comfortable enough with sneaking Sorensen through waivers and onto the practice squad.

Running backs (4)

Ryan Mathews
Danny Woodhead
Donald Brown
Marion Grice

Grice is my pick to return kicks as it stands now, but don’t count out Kerwynn Williams or Branden Oliver as possible kick return options.

Receivers (5)

Keenan Allen
Malcom Floyd
Eddie Royal
Vincent Brown
Seyi Ajirotutu

Ex-CFL standout Dontrelle Inman has a shot to earn a job. Rookies Tevin Reese, Javontee Herndon and Micah Hatfield are possible practice squad candidates.

Tight ends (4)

Antonio Gates
Ladarius Green
David Johnson
John Phillips

With the development of Green, the Chargers will run two-tight end sets more this season. Johnson also can be used as a fullback. If healthy, Phillips provides depth as a blocking tight end. Ryan Otten also looked promising as a pass-catching threat during offseason workouts.

Offensive linemen (9)

Nick Hardwick
Chad Rinehart
King Dunlap
Johnnie Troutman
D.J. Fluker
Rich Ohrnberger
Chris Watt
Mike Harris
Willie Smith

With Jeromey Clary possibly beginning the season on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list coming off offseason shoulder and hip surgeries, the Chargers have some inexperienced players at interior offensive line in Troutman and Watt. So it will be important for veteran players like Hardwick and Ohrnberger to help those young guys along during training camp. Undrafted rookie free agent Craig Watts could compete for a job on the active roster.

Defensive linemen (6)

Corey Liuget
Kendall Reyes
Sean Lissemore
Lawrence Guy
Kwame Geathers
Ryan Carrethers

Quality depth and experience remains a concern at this position after Liuget and Reyes. Geathers and Carrethers have potential but have to show during preseason play that they can work in as part of the defensive line rotation. Tenny Palepoi and Damik Scafe also have a chance to earn time during training camp.

Linebackers (11)
Donald Butler
Manti Te’o
Melvin Ingram
Dwight Freeney
Jarret Johnson
Jeremiah Attaochu
Reggie Walker
Kavell Conner
Andrew Gachkar
Larry English
Cordarro Law

This is probably the deepest position on defense, and some tough decisions will have to be made here. Thomas Keiser and Tourek Williams, impact players last season, both have a realistic shot of making the roster.

Cornerbacks (4)

Jason Verrett
Shareece Wright
Brandon Flowers
Steve Williams

It’s hard to leave Richard Marshall off here, but his salary is not guaranteed and Flowers could be his eventual replacement if the Fresno State product does not have a good training camp.

Safeties (4)
Eric Weddle
Marcus Gilchrist
Jahleel Addae
Darrell Stuckey

Arizona State undrafted rookie free agent Alden Darby flashed during offseason workouts, and has a chance to work himself onto the back end of the roster.

Specialists (3)

Mike Scifres (P)
Nick Novak (PK)
Mike Windt (LS)

The Chargers have an experienced, consistent group of specialists and likely will not make a change here.




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Last edited 08/10/2014 5:41 PM by viseman61

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Posted: 07/19/2014 11:33 PM

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Nice right up Vise.   I can't see us keeping 11 linebackers and only 4 corners especially since Verrett is coming of surgery.  Do you think  Ghee will make it?   Also I doubt Phillps will be kept as the 4th TE.
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Posted: 07/20/2014 7:19 AM

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Good points Doc, that's why This is a tough list to make up Before TC! BTW this from Eric Williiams, But I agree on
Too many LB's, 1 too Many TE's, and IMO Ghee has been a I can't wait to see what happens guy!
And can someone explain Stuckey to me? Meh safety at best but a good ST guy?




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Posted: 07/20/2014 7:31 AM

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I don't see English making this team in 2014 at all.  If not for a technicality I believe it were, he wouldn't even be on the roster now. 

I do believe that Beach's boy Inman makes the cut.  I think he not only shows out but I think with the injury history with some in this group, he makes the cut.  I also agree with Beach in his previous statements that Reese with have to standout as a special teamer to make the 53 but ultimately think he'll be a PS guy in year one. 

I'm also thinking Geather misses the  cut and one of the camp guys replaces him. 

I like Walker but I have a feeling he will end up being a numbers casualty.  Not only that but guys like Conner, Law and even a vet like Gachkar.  These guys are all going to have to compete on Special Teams to make the final 53. Both Walker and Gachkar are decent depth and special teamers so the other to are really going to have to stand out. In the same breath Walker and Gach can't rest on what they've done in recent history. 

I'm also not thinking they will carry 4 RB's if they are going to work the double tight formation more.  With Mathews (in a contract year), Brown and Woody in the mix, there will be very little use for a 4th IMO.  Unless one of the RB's shows out as a special team (return specialist) 

I know many are not going to like this statement but if ol' turn style makes back healthy enough, I have this strange feeling that he makes the 53. And if that happens, I see Watt becoming a first year C/OG swing man replacing Ornberger and giving Chris plenty of needed experience and will play within the rotation. My bold prediction is that Craig Watts makes the cut and becomes a sideline warriror (if he shows out in the pre-season) I don't think they allow him to get to the PS.  Especially with Coach D coaching him and still having guys like a Hardwick to help him along the way as an OL veteran mentor. 

If they had to cut a QB, I think Clemsons would be the guy that misses.  I think Brad will show out well enough to be worthy of that #2 spot this year becoming the new clipboard carrier.
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Posted: 07/20/2014 7:38 AM

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Also forgot that I believe that one maybe two spots depth wise may not even be on the roster right now.  Just sayin' once other teams start chopping their own guys.  We could be looking at some different names on the board (depth) wise.
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Posted: 07/20/2014 5:25 PM

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every time they make the cut to 53 I can't believe the NFL hasn't increased the rosters it needs to go up to at least 58 and  be a hard 58 meaning all 58 can dress on game day I would like it to be higher then 58 but I don't think that's going to happen
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Posted: 07/20/2014 8:14 PM

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WR: 6+1 as a return specialist

Floyd, Allen, Royal, Brown, Inman, Tutu, Chancellor.

I think Brelan Chancellor makes the team as a return specialist and possible replacement for Royal next year.  With a spread offense They will carry more than 5 WRs and both Tutu and Chancellor would be ST's guys.

TE: 3
Gates, Green, toss up for the blocking TE.

DLine:6

Luiget, Reyes, Law,  Lissemore, Carrethers, Palepoi


I don't see Geahters on the active roster, thugh he might make the PS.

CBs: 5

Wright, Flowers, Willaims, Cromartie, Marshall or Verrett.

I have a sneaking suspicion they will put Verrett on IR (able to return).  If he is needed they can bring him back later in the season.  He missed all the OTA's and might miss part of TC as well.  No need to rush him back and possibily do so prematurely.  If he's not needed then it's a redshirt year.

LBs 10

Cordarrow Law is a DE not an OLB

OLB: Ingram, Attaochu, Freeney, Johnson, English

ILB: Butler, Teo, Conner, Walker, Gachkar

OLine
If they keep 9 on the oline the 9th guy will more likely be Becton.   If they keep 8 that last spot will come down to Becton or Ohrnberger.  Ohrnberger would be expendable if they think Watt can play C this year.  Harris can play both OT and OG.  It would be foolish to go into the season again with only one OT backup again.

IMO if they keep 9 depends on if they keep Clemons. IMO Clemons is dead weight.
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Posted: 07/20/2014 10:16 PM

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beachbolt wrote: WR: 6+1 as a return specialist

Floyd, Allen, Royal, Brown, Inman, Tutu, Chancellor.

I think Brelan Chancellor makes the team as a return specialist and possible replacement for Royal next year.  With a spread offense They will carry more than 5 WRs and both Tutu and Chancellor would be ST's guys.

TE: 3
Gates, Green, toss up for the blocking TE.

DLine:6

Luiget, Reyes, Law,  Lissemore, Carrethers, Palepoi


I don't see Geahters on the active roster, thugh he might make the PS.

CBs: 5

Wright, Flowers, Willaims, Cromartie, Marshall or Verrett.

I have a sneaking suspicion they will put Verrett on IR (able to return).  If he is needed they can bring him back later in the season.  He missed all the OTA's and might miss part of TC as well.  No need to rush him back and possibily do so prematurely.  If he's not needed then it's a redshirt year.

LBs 10

Cordarrow Law is a DE not an OLB

OLB: Ingram, Attaochu, Freeney, Johnson, English

ILB: Butler, Teo, Conner, Walker, Gachkar

OLine
If they keep 9 on the oline the 9th guy will more likely be Becton.   If they keep 8 that last spot will come down to Becton or Ohrnberger.  Ohrnberger would be expendable if they think Watt can play C this year.  Harris can play both OT and OG.  It would be foolish to go into the season again with only one OT backup again.

IMO if they keep 9 depends on if they keep Clemons. IMO Clemons is dead weight.
No problems with this. Although I think English grasp on a roster spot is tenuous at best as they have already tried to release him.

I see some flash in Chancellor to, I just wonder if he may have been a big fish in a small pond at North Texas.  It'd be a shame to flush Reese, but not unlikely at all if he doesn't win the return job outright.  (no way Reese makes it to PS)

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Posted: 07/20/2014 10:28 PM

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Syx how did they already try to release English?   Not saying I care if he is on the roster or not but I have the feeling he stays for one more year of ineffectiveness.
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Posted: 07/20/2014 11:13 PM

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I swear Broken and Clary must have the same agent!


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Syx how did they already try to release English?   Not saying I care if he is on the roster or not but I have the feeling he stays for one more year of ineffectiveness.

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Posted: 07/20/2014 11:27 PM

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slammer8 wrote: Syx how did they already try to release English?   Not saying I care if he is on the roster or not but I have the feeling he stays for one more year of ineffectiveness.
I guess I should have said it was highly speculated and rumored that we tried to void the final year of his deal, according to many MANY different sources.

http://www.boltsfromtheblue.co...ficially-voided

http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...gent-after-all/

English has played so few snaps in his career that he was unable to activate the kicker in his contract that would have allowed us to opt out.

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Posted: 07/21/2014 5:41 AM

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When I created my New Sig, Clary was the reason, but English makes more sense!




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Posted: 07/21/2014 7:02 AM

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Either that or they both have some compromising, scandalous photos of Spanos!! LOL


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I swear Broken and Clary must have the same agent!


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Syx how did they already try to release English?   Not saying I care if he is on the roster or not but I have the feeling he stays for one more year of ineffectiveness.

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Posted: 07/21/2014 7:20 AM

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Thanks for posting vise.  I'm pinning since this will be an ongoing topic right through the preseason.  My comments are in bold/red below.
viseman61 wrote: One of my favorite preseason fodder items, guessing the Roster, this is from our ESPN Beat Writer for the Chargers
Eric Williams, why in the HELL would you try this before TC beats me, and he only wants to carry 5 WR's
I would dump English for Keiser straight up,
Have fun Guys!

San Diego Chargers' projected roster
By:Eric D. Williams, ESPN

Quarterbacks (3)

Philip Rivers
Kellen Clemens
Brad Sorensen
The Chargers kept three quarterbacks on the active roster last year, but could pick up a roster spot if they feel comfortable enough with sneaking Sorensen through waivers and onto the practice squad.
Agreed

Running backs (4)

Ryan Mathews
Danny Woodhead
Donald Brown
Marion Grice

Grice is my pick to return kicks as it stands now, but don’t count out Kerwynn Williams or Branden Oliver as possible kick return options.
Agreed, but I think that Grice and Reece will be splitting PR, and KR duties.

Receivers (6)

Keenan Allen
Malcom Floyd
Eddie Royal
Vincent Brown
Seyi Ajirotutu
Tevin Reece

Ex-CFL standout Dontrelle Inman has a shot to earn a job. Rookies Tevin Reese, Javontee Herndon and Micah Hatfield are possible practice squad candidates.
If Inman is PS eligible, I think we stash him there until if/when we have an injury at WR (Floyd, Royal have a history there).


Tight ends (3)

Antonio Gates
Ladarius Green
David Johnson

With the development of Green, the Chargers will run two-tight end sets more this season. Johnson also can be used as a fullback. If healthy, Phillips provides depth as a blocking tight end. Ryan Otten also looked promising as a pass-catching threat during offseason workouts.
I think that David Johnson who will be our TE/FB beats out John Phillips mainly due to his versatility, and we don't need two blocking TE's.


Offensive linemen (9)

Nick Hardwick
Chad Rinehart
King Dunlap
Johnnie Troutman
D.J. Fluker
Rich Ohrnberger
Chris Watt
Mike Harris
Jeromey Clary

With Jeromey Clary possibly beginning the season on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list coming off offseason shoulder and hip surgeries, the Chargers have some inexperienced players at interior offensive line in Troutman and Watt. So it will be important for veteran players like Hardwick and Ohrnberger to help those young guys along during training camp. Undrafted rookie free agent Craig Watts could compete for a job on the active roster.
I've learned (finally) not to bet against Clary….


Defensive linemen (6)

Corey Liuget
Kendall Reyes
Sean Lissemore
Lawrence Guy
Kwame Geathers OR Ryan Carrethers (Only one backup NT)
Damik Scafe (one of my fav backups)

Quality depth and experience remains a concern at this position after Liuget and Reyes. Geathers and Carrethers have potential but have to show during preseason play that they can work in as part of the defensive line rotation. Tenny Palepoi and Damik Scafe also have a chance to earn time during training camp.

Linebackers (9)
Donald Butler
Manti Te’o
Melvin Ingram
Dwight Freeney
Jarret Johnson
Jeremiah Attaochu
Kavell Conner
Andrew Gachkar
Larry English
(Is Walker still with the team??)

This is probably the deepest position on defense, and some tough decisions will have to be made here. Thomas Keiser and Tourek Williams, impact players last season, both have a realistic shot of making the roster.

Cornerbacks (5)

Jason Verrett
Shareece Wright
Brandon Flowers
Steve Williams
Richard Marshall (we need the depth)

It’s hard to leave Richard Marshall off here, but his salary is not guaranteed and Flowers could be his eventual replacement if the Fresno State product does not have a good training camp.

Safeties (4)
Eric Weddle
Marcus Gilchrist
Jahleel Addae
Darrell Stuckey

Arizona State undrafted rookie free agent Alden Darby flashed during offseason workouts, and has a chance to work himself onto the back end of the roster.
Agreed


Specialists (3)

Mike Scifres (P)
Nick Novak (PK)
Mike Windt (LS)

The Chargers have an experienced, consistent group of specialists and likely will not make a change here.
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Posted: 07/21/2014 7:36 AM

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Love it Doc! Walker is still on the Chargers Roster, I'm hoping Ghee pushes Marshall, I wish we could use one of those LB spots for another NT, unless one of those other DL can play NT, Reese is too sexy of a pick to stash on
The PS, he will get vultured in 2 seconds, so I agree with you.




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Posted: 07/21/2014 7:55 AM

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syxwunine wrote:
beachbolt wrote: WR: 6+1 as a return specialist

Floyd, Allen, Royal, Brown, Inman, Tutu, Chancellor.

I think Brelan Chancellor makes the team as a return specialist and possible replacement for Royal next year.  With a spread offense They will carry more than 5 WRs and both Tutu and Chancellor would be ST's guys.

TE: 3
Gates, Green, toss up for the blocking TE.

DLine:6

Luiget, Reyes, Law,  Lissemore, Carrethers, Palepoi


I don't see Geahters on the active roster, thugh he might make the PS.

CBs: 5

Wright, Flowers, Willaims, Cromartie, Marshall or Verrett.

I have a sneaking suspicion they will put Verrett on IR (able to return).  If he is needed they can bring him back later in the season.  He missed all the OTA's and might miss part of TC as well.  No need to rush him back and possibily do so prematurely.  If he's not needed then it's a redshirt year.

LBs 10

Cordarrow Law is a DE not an OLB

OLB: Ingram, Attaochu, Freeney, Johnson, English

ILB: Butler, Teo, Conner, Walker, Gachkar

OLine
If they keep 9 on the oline the 9th guy will more likely be Becton.   If they keep 8 that last spot will come down to Becton or Ohrnberger.  Ohrnberger would be expendable if they think Watt can play C this year.  Harris can play both OT and OG.  It would be foolish to go into the season again with only one OT backup again.

IMO if they keep 9 depends on if they keep Clemons. IMO Clemons is dead weight.
No problems with this. Although I think English grasp on a roster spot is tenuous at best as they have already tried to release him.

I see some flash in Chancellor to, I just wonder if he may have been a big fish in a small pond at North Texas.  It'd be a shame to flush Reese, but not unlikely at all if he doesn't win the return job outright.  (no way Reese makes it to PS)
Agree.  This looks pretty solid to me. On a sidenote Law being a DE is interesting as he Freeney and English pretty much have the same physical traits from what I do know of him.  Meaning he's about 6'1-6'2 around 250 range.
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Posted: 07/21/2014 9:46 AM

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viseman61 wrote: By:Eric D. Williams, ESPN

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... the Chargers have some inexperienced players at interior offensive line in Troutman and Watt. So it will be important for veteran players like Hardwick and Ohrnberger to help those young guys along during training camp.

I'm always interested in how different people define the same words.  In this case, the word "inexperienced", and how he used it in reference to Troutman and Ohrnberger.  Because that comparison isn't a part of how I define the word at all.  Troutman started most of the games last year for the Bolts, and played a ton more than Ohrnberger did.  It seems rather funny to me to paint this picture of Troutman as some lost little puppy, with grand old sage Ohrnberger leading him around everywhere.

Then again, he later had Broken making the team over Keiser, too, so maybe it's just yet another in a long, looooooong line of national dufi writing articles about the Chargers just because they have to, and not because they know anything about them.

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Posted: 07/21/2014 12:32 PM

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That's was my thought also, was this a required homework assingment for Williams, but great fodder for us, besides
Eric has been the beat writer for this team for awhile now, so he should know who is who by now, and yes I'd take
Keiser over Bad English in a Bar room second!




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Posted: 07/21/2014 1:16 PM

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just in case no one saw this the other day, I prefer not to see any more 'Red shirt' nonsense.

VERRETT SHOULD BE READY FOR CAMP!
The Union-Tribune San Diego's Tom Krasovic says rookie CB Jason Verrett (shoulder) is expected to be ready for camp.
Verrett was expected to be out until at least August recovering from surgery to repair a torn labrum. The early return helps his chances at earning a starting job in camp, and at the very least Verrett should contribute in sub packages as a rookie. The additions of Verrett and newly-signed Brandon Flowers should make the Chargers secondary a more formidable force this season.
Source: Union-Tribune San Diego Jul 19 - 1:20 PM




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Posted: 07/22/2014 9:02 AM

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