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GAME OF THRONES MOCK (finally completed)

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Posted: 04/04/2014 10:43 PM

GAME OF THRONES MOCK (finally completed) 


1.  TEXANSQB Blake Bortles -  There is no doubt that Clowney is the most talked about player considered for the top overall pick in the 2014 Draft.  He does have some question marks around him, but honestly, I think his natural ability will overcome.  Having said that, the Texans already have a darn good defensive front seven, and are in need of a QB of the future.  Personally I think that Bortles did enough in college, and in the lead up to the draft to convince the Texans that he could be their guy.

2.  RAMS:  OT Greg Robinson – When you have QB troubles, sometimes stronger bookends can help you out.  The Rams are very strong at the DE position, with Long and Quinn so they pass on Clowney.  I just don’t think they give up on their starting QB right now with this QB class.  I haven’t heard many (if any) rumors that the Rams are high on any of the QB’s.

3.  JAGUARS:  DE Jadeveon Clowney -  The Jags need help all over, and Clowney is an excellent fit in Florida.  Instantly the Jags’ best defensive player?

4.  BROWNS:  OT Jake Mathews – The Browns offensive line could use a little youth infusion.  Although QB is an option, I think they like their chances with selecting one in the second round.  Mathews would certainly help any QB flourish, and I do know that they are interviewing Garapolo.

5.  RAIDERS:  WR Sammy Watkins – Looking at the Raiders roster, I was struck with just how many players they have that are 30+ and quite a few at age 29.  I’m thinking they like Schaub enough to let him have a chance and they hand him a playmaker.

6.  FALCONS – WR Mike Evans – I don’t think I’ve seen Evans this high, but Roddy White is getting up there in age (31) and I like the idea of a Jones/White/Evans trifecta in Atlanta.

7.  BUCANNERS – QB Johnny Manziel -  Well they need a QB, and Manziel is right there.  I think that Manziel to Jackson sounds like a formidable duo.

8.  VIKINGS – DT Aaron Donald -  I have not seen the pundits pick Donald for the Vikings but hear me out.  I think that there is actually some talent at QB on the roster, and I think that with the right offensive coordinator, ONE of these QB’s will finally turn the corner. 
Ponder, Freeman, or even Cassel could rebound to “Patriots form”.  I picked Donald because IMO he’s the best FIT for the players on the board, and at a position of need.

9.  BILLS – OT/OG Zack Martin – The Bills drafted their hopeful franchise QB last draft in the first round, and this is just a simple move to help the guy improve.  Martin’s versatility to play OG or OT allows for some line shuffling.

10.  LIONS – CB Justin Gilbert -  Honestly I’m surprised I haven’t found a home for Khalil Mack yet, but I’m studying each roster here, and picking based on team need, “aged” players at certain positions, FITS, and I’ve also looked at each teams’ past three drafts, and this is where I’m at.  I think it's very possible that Mack and Barr slip out of the top 10, even if Bridgewater isn't in the mix.  The Lions need some youth insurance at CB, with Houston pushing 30, and Gilbert could be considered here. 

PICKS 11-20 by Saturday Eve....

NOTES: 

Falling out of the top 10 are: OLB Mack, and OLB Barr.  QB Bridgewater too.

New top 10 players:  DT Aaron Donald, WR Mike Evans, and OT Zack Martin

11.  TITANS:  OLB/DE Khalil Mack – Great value at 11, Khalil Mack looks to improve the Titans pass rush.  Although the team added Shaun Phillips in the offseason, they really do need one more guy, and a more long term answer at the position.

12.  GIANTS:  TE Eric Ebron – This is a good fit, a need pick and seems to be a “consensus pick” across many pundits’ mock drafts.  Adds a weapon the Giants have not had for a long time at the TE position.  Eli needs a check down guy.

13.  RAMS:  OLB Ryan Shazier -  I think that Shazier really helped himself at the combine and could go in the top 15, but I think that the Rams would like to trade down a few and still get their man.  Shazier would play OLB in the Rams’ 4-3 defense, that is in need of help in the run defense department.  I think that Shazier is an excellent fit to pair with Laurinaitis, and I feel that it's his ability to drop back that makes him a better fit than Anthony Barr, who I see as more of a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE.

14.  BEARS:  OLB Anthony Barr – And so ends the slide of Anthony Barr. Kirwan has Barr going to the Steelers, so I’m not alone on the idea that Barr could go this late.  Although the Bears added Jared Allen, he’s on the downside of his career, playing at a high level.  I imagine Barr/Allen wrecking havoc for some time.

15.  STEELERS:  CB Darqueze Dennard – It’s been a long time since the Steelers spent high on a CB in the draft and their current roster of defensive backs are getting pretty old.  Dennard would be a welcome addition in Steel Town.

NOTES:  So Mack, and Barr stop the slide and still land in the top 15.  Things aren’t looking good for Bridgewater.  Ryan Shazier makes a surprise appearance in the top 15, when most mocks and big boards I see have him in the lower half of the first round.

16.  COWBOYS:  OT Taylor Lewan:  explanations coming soon

17.  RAVENS:  FS Hasean Clinton-Dix: 
explanations coming soon

18.  JETS:  WR Odell Beckham Jr.:  explanations coming soon

19.  DOLPHINS:  OG Xavier Su'a Filo:  explanations coming soon

20.  CARDINALS:  FS  Calvin Pryor:  explanations coming soon

 
21.  PACKERS:  CB Kyle Fuller:  
CB Tramon Williams is a good player, but he's also 31 and not a huge ball hawk right now.  I think that selecting a cornerback is a move that allows Fuller to perhaps be the number two, or nickel for a season and not be expected to do too much this year.  He could be groomed as a starter in the 2015 season.

22.  EAGLES:  WR Brandon Cooks:  
When you lose one of your best playmakers, you have to replace him somehow.

23.  CHIEFS:  DT Timmy Jernigan:  
I think that the line would be vastly improved if Jernigan replaced DeVito.

24.  BENGALS:  DE Kony Ealy:  
The Bengals' pass rush needs a boost, and Ealy could start right away on this 4-3 front, along with Michael Johnson.

25.  CHARGERS:

WHO DO THE CHARGERS PICK?    IMO it's Nix or Ford.

Last edited 04/10/2014 7:46 AM by yantha

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Posted: 04/04/2014 11:24 PM

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You're going to tease me and then make me wait for the rest of the draft.....What are you a Free App?

Booooooooo

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Posted: 04/05/2014 5:40 AM

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Don't worry Honk by Sat. eve he will unbutton the Second button.....
Told you we should of bought him dinner first!
Good stuff Doc!

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Posted: 04/05/2014 7:08 AM

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I would like a GM with a sense of humor that had the #1 overall pick, and when it's delivered to Goodll it has like a
Punters name on it. C 'on they cant dunk no more, let's have some fun!


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Posted: 04/05/2014 8:32 AM

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Both Mack and Barr are not picked in the top ten?   Here comes Beach for the trade up to get Barr.
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Posted: 04/05/2014 8:34 AM

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Picks 11-15 added.
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Posted: 04/05/2014 4:36 PM

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Yantha, you're my hero for doing this with the explanations. That takes some digging and sluicing.
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Posted: 04/05/2014 4:43 PM

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+10000
The only person that comes close is Dr. football

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Yantha, you're my hero for doing this with the explanations. That takes some digging and sluicing.

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Posted: 04/05/2014 5:58 PM

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Yantha sometimes I wonder about you buddy.

The Browns spending a top 5 pick on Jake Matthews when they have Joe Thomas? WTF WHY? They have another pick at 26 if they want a RT, Moses and Kouandijo will both be there.

The Falcons taking Mike Evans when they still have Roddy White, Julio Jones, AND Harry Douglas who broke 1000 yards last year? 4 deep at WR but nobody to rush the passer or even play Left Tackle? Interesting strategy.

The Bucs taking Manziel when they just signed Josh McCown (who's already been declared the starter) and Glennon had a very good rookie season....not likely.

The Vikings passing on a QB in favor of ANOTHER DEFENIVE TACKLE, after drafting Sharif Floyd last year and signing Linval Joseph????

Khalil Mack falling out of the top 10? Extremely unlikely as the Rams, Jags, Falcons, Bucs, and Bills all have needs at OLB and he's by far the best one in this draft.


Look man I know you fancy yourself a draftnik, but do some roster homework man, some of these picks are nothing short of egregious.

Last edited 04/05/2014 6:00 PM by syxwunine

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Posted: 04/05/2014 6:10 PM

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It wasn't Yantha who made this mock, it was Doctor Football and Rob Ford on a bender! biggrin

I like it brutha! But I think Syx points out so good points. I have been studying this draft like none other and I plan on making my FINAL...Yes FINAL Chargers mock draft in the next week or two. Keep at it though! I appreciate your info!

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Posted: 04/05/2014 6:20 PM

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Me too, Honk. I figure if nothing else it may reduce my angst over the actual draft.
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Posted: 04/05/2014 6:22 PM

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I just like reading posts from all sides, thats why i come here, and i appreciate all of you that take the time to put your thoughts to words. Carry on :)
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Posted: 04/05/2014 6:40 PM

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idbolt wrote: I just like reading posts from all sides, thats why i come here, and i appreciate all of you that take the time to put your thoughts to words. Carry on :)

Remember you said that after my mock is published.
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Posted: 04/05/2014 6:43 PM

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I was brought up that it is rude to mock people


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Posted: 04/05/2014 7:53 PM

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viseman61 wrote: I was brought up that it is rude to mock people
If he also has the Falcons drafting a receiver at 6 eek1, there will be no way to avoid getting "mocked."wink

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Posted: 04/05/2014 8:03 PM

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I don't "fancy myself" to be anything but a football fan Syx. It's not like I see myself as any sort of authority here.  I'm no different than anyone else here when it comes to the Chargers and football in general.

I have my opinions, and I have studied every single roster for my top 15 picks so far, as well drafts from the past 3 years for each team posted so far.  I've even visited team forums to see what fans are saying, just to help me form my opinions on how it could shake down.

Syx.  I respect your opinion, but I don't appreciate the snide comments.

Every single draft, there are players that are "guaranteed" to be top ten players that slip.  I even remember our very own Ingram slipping pretty far and falling into our laps.  There are sure to be some surprises on draft day, and I think that my well thought out mock sheds some light on a few surprises that I could see happening.

I can argue against every single one of the points you brought forward, but honestly I'm getting too old for this, and I have lost interest in taking part in pointless "opinion slinging" that usually goes nowhere.  

I'll just touch on ONE of the points that seems to be bugging you.  It's likely I won't convince you but here's my take anyways.

WR to the Falcons:
The fans love Jones, but also hate that he spends a heck of a lot of time on the bench nursing injuries, and White is old and surely on the downside.  The team lost a productive offensive target in Tony Gonzalez, and adding a WR helps this team run a very potent spread offense that I thought would really differentiate them from the crowd, and quite possibly launch them towards the playoffs.  Do they need defence?  Heck yes!, but I thought that fixing this offense first was the best way to go, given the talent to be had at the top of the draft, and the dropoff thereof in round two onwards,  and the other holes could be addressed in round 2 and beyond.

We're both football fans, and Chargers fans, so at least we have a few things in common.

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Posted: 04/05/2014 8:24 PM

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yantha wrote: I don't "fancy myself" to be anything but a football fan Syx. It's not like I see myself as any sort of authority here.  I'm no different than anyone else here when it comes to the Chargers and football in general.

I have my opinions, and I have studied every single roster for my top 15 picks so far, as well drafts from the past 3 years for each team posted so far.  I've even visited team forums to see what fans are saying, just to help me form my opinions on how it could shake down.

Syx.  I respect your opinion, but I don't appreciate the snide comments.

Every single draft, there are players that are "guaranteed" to be top ten players that slip.  I even remember our very own Ingram slipping pretty far and falling into our laps.  There are sure to be some surprises on draft day, and I think that my well thought out mock sheds some light on a few surprises that I could see happening.

I can argue against every single one of the points you brought forward, but honestly I'm getting too old for this, and I have lost interest in taking part in pointless spats.

We're both football fans, and Chargers fans, so at least we have a few things in common.
I apologize, I'm trying to be as nice as possible, while disagreeing with your picks vigorously. 

But the Browns, Falcons, and Vikings picks are SHOCKERS, all of them would be greeted with mass confusion and I could see Falcons fans burning down the Georgia Dome if they spend yet another prime pick on a WR when they are already 3 deep with 1000 yard guys,

There are probably going to be some surprises, like maybe Atlanta takes Clinton-Dix, or the Bucs take Ebron, or the Raiders take Mike Evans or something like that.  But the ones you picked were just confounding, you got teams with huge issues taking players they just don't need.

I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm just showing my astonishment at so many twists in just 10 picks.

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Posted: 04/05/2014 8:33 PM

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In between this I wanted to say that Doc you brought up a good point in another thread on how if a team stock piles
a certain position they will have no choice and dump a higher salary and maybe someone like us who is in need
can chicken- pick a player.Syx, I really enjoy the banter and knowlegde you share brother but doesn't Doc deserve
some respect points, he is always cool with everyone, none of my business I know just sayin,


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Posted: 04/05/2014 8:37 PM

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Thanks for the response.  While you were writing yours, I edited mine to touch on your Atlanta point (please read it ABOVE, regarding Tony Gonzo etc).  I know I don't follow the conventional wisdoms that are being thrown around by the pundits, and sometimes the fans, but I'm honest with my opinions.  I'm honestly not trying to purposely throw in twists just to be interesting, or different.  

I actually believe in these possibilities, and think that the teams SHOULD draft the players I listed.

If the Falcons don't draft an OL, or defensive front seven, that doesn't mean the sky is falling.  I just like the WR's in the first round and the DEPTH in the second and third rounds to address the other needs you eluded to.

The falcons could draft a WR in the first, and then Attaochu in the second for example, and the top DL in the third.  Plus there are several quality O-linemen to be had in the 3rd or 4th onwards.

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Posted: 04/05/2014 8:46 PM

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Hey Yantha I wouldn't take Syx the wrong way. He can be brutal but he's very astute. I've taken my beatings and liked it. HA!

We're lucky to have him on this board. Your guesses are just as valid as anyone else. Every draft comes and goes and after the first few picks, I've already begun to scratch my head.

Remember it only takes one team to pick a player no one projected, and it can have huge ripple effects for the rest of the round. It happens every year!

Like Rob Ford says...."F it!" And I think that's some good advice! HA!

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