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Ranking the Charger Head Coaches

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Posted: 06/13/2013 8:42 AM

Ranking the Charger Head Coaches 


So I'm obviously keeping of the coaches who were "ugh!" (June Jones, Mike Riley, Al Saunders, etc) and the coaches who were "huh?" (Charlie Waller, Ron Waller, Harland Savare, etc.) and just focusing on those coaches who've won at least 40 games with the Chargers.


Here are the candidates:

Sid Gillman (1960 - 1969, 1971): 87 - 57 - 6 (.600)
An incredible coaching tree (Knox, Schembechler, Walsh, Noll, Davis, Vermeil, Allen, Coryell, etc); Helped establish the AFL and merge it with the NFL; Won 5 AFL Western Division titles; 1 AFL League Championship (1963); innovative offenses using motion


Don Coryell (1978 - 1986): 72 - 60 (.545)
First coach to win 100 games at collegiate and professional levels; Innovative passing offenses; 3 - 6 postseason record (leaving defensive duties mostly to Tom Bass); Coaching tree includes Joe Gibbs, Ernie Zampese, and, to an extent, John Madden; No Super Bowl appearances.


Bobby Ross (1992 - 1996): 50 - 36 (.581)
Only Charger coach to appear in a Super Bowl; 3 - 3 playoff record; two Division Titles in 5 seasons.


Marty Schottenheimer (2002 - 2006): 47 - 33 (.588)
Most wins of any NFL coach since 1966 to never coach a team in a Super Bowl; A .620 winning percentage with the Browns along with a .333 percentage in the playoffs including 4 appearances, 3 AFC Central titles, 2 AFC Championship games; A .634 winning percentage with the Chiefs over 10 years with 3 Division Titles and 1 AFC Championship appearance and a playoff percentage of .333; With the Chargers Marty helped change a culture of losing by winning 47 games over 5 seasons and making the playoffs twice - though he lost both playoff games; Fired from the Chargers after a regular season record of 14 - 2.


Norv Turner (2007 - 2012): 59 - 43 (.578)
Offensive coordinator for the Cowboys he took over an offense that was dead last in total yards and helped them to 9th (1991), 4th (1992), and 4th (1993) to win back to back Super Bowls in 1992 and 1993; Aikman has a record of 7 - 18 as a starter before Turner where he then had a record of 31 - 11 in the regular season; As Redskins HC Turner went 49 - 59 - 1 (.453) making it to the playoffs only once; His final Redskin year he has the distinction of being the only NFL head coach in the post-merger era to be fired midway through a season with a winning record; With the Raiders in two seasons Norv went 9 - 23 winning only 1 intra-division game; Turner helped the Chargers win their first playoff game since 1994 and finished with 3 playoff wins (.500) in 6 games.


How would you rank them?
For all of their strengths, they each have some big weaknesses (in terms of winning important games). I think mine would look like this:

1. Gillman (so curious how he'd do today)
2. Bobby Ross (have to with the Super Bowl appearance)
3. Don Coryell (though a lot of deficiencies)
4. Norv Turner (only because of the playoff wins)
5. Marty Schottenheimer (yes, he's a better coach than Norv, BUT he couldn't win the important games, ever)


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Posted: 06/13/2013 9:06 AM

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shoehater wrote:

4. Norv Turner (only because of the playoff wins)
5. Marty Schottenheimer (yes, he's a better coach than Norv, BUT he couldn't win the important games, ever)

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4. Marty Schottenheimer
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47. Norv Turner

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Posted: 06/13/2013 9:14 AM

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Haha I hear ya. And, ironically, I wouldn't want him coaching us now, of course. But there is something to be said for rankings including playoff wins. And he got 3 of them (as many as Bobby and more than the rest - way more then one on the list).

PS I hope you have him above Kevin Gilbride.

Chargerhonk wrote:
shoehater wrote:

4. Norv Turner (only because of the playoff wins)
5. Marty Schottenheimer (yes, he's a better coach than Norv, BUT he couldn't win the important games, ever)

You need a slight revision...(Based upon future candidates)

4. Marty Schottenheimer
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47. Norv Turner

“I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.”

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Posted: 06/13/2013 9:58 AM

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He got 3 of them with a pretty stacked team.

How about we see ol Norv coach a team up like Marty did and win a playoff game.

Or he could just walk into a set situation like he did and reap all the rewards. Like he did. For far too freakin long.
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Posted: 06/13/2013 2:30 PM

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ya...norv has sent our franchise pro bowl QB into a downward spiral. one year out, i see rivers earn the leagues comeback player. that alone puts norv below coaches yet to coach a game...even with the playoff wins he fell into!


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Posted: 06/14/2013 1:23 AM

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Now don't get me wrong here fellaz but while I agree that Norv won with a stacked group of guys. The negative side of that is that while we all know that it was Marty's squad, Marty himself couldn't get the job done with that fairly stacked club. Don't shoot the messenger I'm just sayin'.
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Posted: 06/14/2013 1:26 AM

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Btw, my numero uno is the only HC to take the bolts to a SB.

Boss Ross.
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Posted: 06/14/2013 1:47 AM

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+1
Thisfrickinguy wrote: Now don't get me wrong here fellaz but while I agree that Norv won with a stacked group of guys. The negative side of that is that while we all know that it was Marty's squad, Marty himself couldn't get the job done with that fairly stacked club. Don't shoot the messenger I'm just sayin'.
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