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DJ Fluker In Clary Out

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Posted: 04/25/2013 7:42 PM

DJ Fluker In Clary Out 


It's an obvious reach at 11, but O-linemen were at a premium today. We needed a new starter on the O-line. We got one. 

I listened to Telesco talk about the pick on Chargers.com. He stated that he is going to plug Fluker in at Right Tackle. So, that is obviously bad news for Clary but good news for those who want Clary gone. Is Clary moving to guard? Or is he gone? Either way, there's going to be serious debate as to how much of an upgrade Fluker is over Clary.

With his size, Fluker certainly seems to be a much better anchor and more of a mauler than Clary. I  don't think you'll see him getting over powered any time soon but against speed rushers he can definitely be beat inside and around the edge. For now, I'll say he is an improvement.

Now, go out there and get Barrett Jones....and we'll own half of the vaunted Bama O-line.
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Posted: 04/25/2013 7:52 PM

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Good for Mathews, probably breaking even for Rivers.

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Posted: 04/25/2013 7:57 PM

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syxwunine wrote: Good for Mathews, probably breaking even for Rivers.
Which brings the question, "is McCoy thinking of bringing the power running game back to SD"????

MartY Ball

M---Y Ball

MccoY Ball.....

Maybe if Rivers' sun is setting just a little, the plan is to have a more balanced attack with a bigger dose of RUNS.
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Posted: 04/25/2013 7:57 PM

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I need to be talked off my ledge.

Maybe I am missing something here.....but this guy has some slow feet and he's now in the NFL. He might be able to compete against some pass rushers but I don't see him doing well against the more agile and quick like Von Miller who we play twice a year.

I will give the guy a chance, I am done being disappointed, but until he proves he can be a solid lineman, the jury will be out...and he doesn't get much of a chance for a learning curve.

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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:04 PM

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Chargerhonk wrote: I need to be talked off my ledge.
You should ignore my posts for the next few months then.

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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:05 PM

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Maybe we're moving Clary to Left Tackle? biggrin devil (sorry honk, I'm really TRYING NOT to make you jump) tongue

 

Last edited 04/25/2013 8:06 PM by nyislelover

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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:07 PM

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syxwunine wrote:
Chargerhonk wrote: I need to be talked off my ledge.
You should ignore my posts for the next few months then.
You're half the reason I come to the board. HA! WTF just happened man? I wait all off-season to get pumped for the 11th pick and we get a guy who is slow footed and a passing liability.  I can't wait to see how he does in pass protection against some real solid pass rushers....right there and then, we'll know.....

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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:07 PM

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nyislelover wrote: Maybe we're moving Clary to Left Tackle? biggrin devil (sorry honk, I'm really TRYING NOT to make you jump) tongue
HA! Yeah, you're a lot of help!

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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:13 PM

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Now, go out there and get Barrett Jones....and we'll own half of the vaunted Bama O-line.

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I was thinking the same thing :)
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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:19 PM

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Chargerhonk wrote: 
You're half the reason I come to the board. HA! WTF just happened man? I wait all off-season to get pumped for the 11th pick and we get a guy who is slow footed and a passing liability.  I can't wait to see how he does in pass protection against some real solid pass rushers....right there and then, we'll know.....
What happened was a young glassy eyed GM got wowed by what I like to call "ESPN hype" and probably hopes his coaches can smooth out the technique flaws in Fluker's game, and maybe get him to drop 10 pounds.

Even if he can picking a pure RT at 11 is not worth it, I'd have been happier with Vaccaro or Lotulelei and going for that dominant defense we're so close too.

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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:20 PM

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It is all going to be Ok Honk.  Let me cheer you up.  Norv is gone!  Now lets practice our breathing and self hypnosis.  I know you got beat up as a kid but we can block that out.  Oh sorry I used the word block. 
Chargerhonk wrote: I need to be talked off my ledge.

Maybe I am missing something here.....but this guy has some slow feet and he's now in the NFL. He might be able to compete against some pass rushers but I don't see him doing well against the more agile and quick like Von Miller who we play twice a year.

I will give the guy a chance, I am done being disappointed, but until he proves he can be a solid lineman, the jury will be out...and he doesn't get much of a chance for a learning curve.
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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:29 PM

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slammer8 wrote: It is all going to be Ok Honk.  Let me cheer you up.  Norv is gone!  Now lets practice our breathing and self hypnosis.  I know you got beat up as a kid but we can block that out.  Oh sorry I used the word block. 
Chargerhonk wrote: I need to be talked off my ledge.

Maybe I am missing something here.....but this guy has some slow feet and he's now in the NFL. He might be able to compete against some pass rushers but I don't see him doing well against the more agile and quick like Von Miller who we play twice a year.

I will give the guy a chance, I am done being disappointed, but until he proves he can be a solid lineman, the jury will be out...and he doesn't get much of a chance for a learning curve.
But I never gave up my lunch money.....oh, they tried....HA!

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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:29 PM

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Here is my take...we all know that the Chargers need to replace all of our offensive line...we suck up front. So any legit starter at LT OG or RT was going to answer a need. This draft is fortunately deep in offensive lineman. People may ***** about drafting a right tackle in the first round...but we had two guards go in the top ten in warmack and cooper. Finding a OG is a lot easier than a starting OT..no matter which side you play them.

Mike Mayock is one of the best draft evaluators in the business and he had 4 OT rated in the first round...Fisher, Joekel, Johnson, and Fluker. This massive OT has the longest arms in the draft at 36 1/2 inches. It is not sexy, but it was necessary. Especially after not spending a quality draft pick on OL since McNeil back in the day.
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Posted: 04/25/2013 8:34 PM

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bpcats wrote: Here is my take...we all know that the Chargers need to replace all of our offensive line...we suck up front. So any legit starter at LT OG or RT was going to answer a need. This draft is fortunately deep in offensive lineman. People may ***** about drafting a right tackle in the first round...but we had two guards go in the top ten in warmack and cooper. Finding a OG is a lot easier than a starting OT..no matter which side you play them.

Mike Mayock is one of the best draft evaluators in the business and he had 4 OT rated in the first round...Fisher, Joekel, Johnson, and Fluker. This massive OT has the longest arms in the draft at 36 1/2 inches. It is not sexy, but it was necessary. Especially after not spending a quality draft pick on OL since McNeil back in the day.
Last year our top pick was questioned because of his short arms....So what do the Chargers do the following year? They get the guy with the longest arms in the draft.   Awesome! tongue

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Posted: 04/25/2013 9:14 PM

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I will start out by saying I dont know much which is why I come here. But after reading syx, Unbeatable and others say they did NOT want Telesco to draft Fluker at 11, I just hope you guys really didnt know what you were talking about. I thought we were going to take Star and make that defensive line even scarier. Lets just hope Fluker turns into a stud at right tackle.
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Posted: 04/25/2013 9:28 PM

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toddhoopster wrote: I will start out by saying I dont know much which is why I come here. But after reading syx, Unbeatable and others say they did NOT want Telesco to draft Fluker at 11, I just hope you guys really didnt know what you were talking about. I thought we were going to take Star and make that defensive line even scarier. Lets just hope Fluker turns into a stud at right tackle.
I do to, and I have been both wrong and right in the past.

But I think I'm a little disturbed at how in AWE Telesco seemed to be about this guy's size in his interview.  It explains why he signed King Dunlap, Telesco is infatuated with big men.

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Posted: 04/25/2013 9:32 PM

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Could Fluker's lack of mobility be due to the fact he played at 355 pounds last season? Its been reported that he's walking around at 339 now. Maybe if he plays at 335 he will be a lot better as a pass protector. Just trying to reach for positives because I am having a hard time understanding this as anything more then a huge reach.
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Posted: 04/25/2013 9:49 PM

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Lets face it folks there was a run on o-line and we had to get what we could get.We had to bring in someone this line has been terrible the last 2-3 years if we can move from terrible to average Rivers can return to form.Going into this draft I was bummed that we would have to go o-line its kind of like saving your money up for a sports car and ending up with a minni van .O-line just isn't a sexy pick a necessary one but not sexy.
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Posted: 04/25/2013 10:09 PM

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I'm trying to take some salvation in the possibility that McCoy will have a more Patriots-esc horizontal quick passing game that will hide crappy OT situation.

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Posted: 04/25/2013 10:11 PM

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Last season he was not that bad. In 781 snaps he only allowed 4 sacks and only drew 2 penalties. Thats a million times better than Clary. The ONLY real weakness I see is his lateral movement. Straight line speed he had the same numbers as Joeckle in the combine for the 40/10yrd split (Joeckle 5.30/1.86, Fluker 5.31/1.90). His super long arms help negate the lateral movement, but he is a bully and a punishing run blocker. Put some resistance bands around his ankles and have him side stepping for at least an hour every practice this summer, keep him around 335 for playing weight, and we have a big upgrade over Clary.
"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve" - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto after leading the attack on Pearl Harbor/ every opposing head coach at halftime this season vs the Chargers.

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