I've looked around and can't find what I'm looking for...  need some help.

Does anyone have a list of teams that currently employ ZONE BLOCKING on the OL?

Apologies for starting soo many threads lately, but I actually really enjoy the offseason.  Possibly as much as the regular season......, and especially when this team is undergoing a major overhaul.

I should have chosen a career in football management....  no connections...  but I just love this stuff.

Not really but off the top of my head I know of 

Texans
Seahawks
Colts
Packers 
Chiefs
Raiders (I'm not 100% sure if they returned back to the man/power scheme yet)
Dolphins  
Bills 
Redskins (Shanahan staple)  
Jaguars
Broncos 
Titans
Panthers 
Browns
Eagles 

Teams that use elements of both ZBS and some form of man

Cardinals
Patriots
Bengals 
Saints

From what Ive been reading the switch in blocking schemes will lead to Vasquez not coming back. Is that how its going down? And how does this effect Johnnie Troutman's status? Ive read good stuff about him and would like to see him get a shot. 

If Vasquez is out then I think its a must to lure Andy Levitre and draft a guard somewhere in the first three rounds.

Thanks for posting the questions..  This is why I'm currently looking at FA candidates with experience in the ZONE blocking scheme.

I hope Vasquez is retained, but if not, who do we target?

That is exactly what I'm looking into right now, and LEVITRE would be AWESOME!  

toddhoopster wrote: From what Ive been reading the switch in blocking schemes will lead to Vasquez not coming back. Is that how its going down? And how does this effect Johnnie Troutman's status? Ive read good stuff about him and would like to see him get a shot. 

If Vasquez is out then I think its a must to lure Andy Levitre and draft a guard somewhere in the first three rounds.

toddhoopster wrote: From what Ive been reading the switch in blocking schemes will lead to Vasquez not coming back. Is that how its going down? And how does this effect Johnnie Troutman's status? Ive read good stuff about him and would like to see him get a shot. 

If Vasquez is out then I think its a must to lure Andy Levitre and draft a guard somewhere in the first three rounds.

According to the San Diego Union Tribune, the team has "reached out" to Vasquez and Cason. Apparantly starting preliminary discussions.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news...-agency-roster/

toddhoopster wrote: From what Ive been reading the switch in blocking schemes will lead to Vasquez not coming back. Is that how its going down? And how does this effect Johnnie Troutman's status? Ive read good stuff about him and would like to see him get a shot. 

If Vasquez is out then I think its a must to lure Andy Levitre and draft a guard somewhere in the first three rounds.

That's pretty interesting.  I know LV is a bit hefty for the ZBS but it's not like he can't handle being a mobile OG.  Not to mention that I have no doubt in my mind that if asked to, Vasquez could easily drop down 10-20 lbs to be a little more mobile and to fit the ZBS a little better.

Troutman on the other hand has never really been a mobile OG.  I can't remember ever watching a Penn State game where I saw the RG pull.  Troutman is IMHO the epitome of a RG fit for the man scheme.  Vasquez I can see making a solid transition because weight is the only real issue when speaking of Vasquez but Troutman, I'm not so sure he could make this transition.  I could be wrong but I just don't see it.  

Tyronne Green however is a perfect fit for this scheme.  Lighter 300's and about 6'2"-6-3"ish.  So yeah, I can see Green be a solid keeper is ZBS is a staple that will be implemented into the current scheme.  



 

Another factor to add to the Vaz discussion.  Does anyone know what scheme Mike Leach has always used?  I'm just wondering what scheme Vaz played in college.

88Unbeatable82 wrote: Another factor to add to the Vaz discussion.  Does anyone know what scheme Mike Leach has always used?  I'm just wondering what scheme Vaz played in college.

I believe it was called the Air Raid under one Mike Leach.  It is said to consist of a hybrid of a system that Mike Shanahan's staff originated.  Which means that there are elements of the Zone scheme if this is indeed true.  

Not so sure about the running assignments but I do know for sure that the Air Raid offense does utilize the use of the slide protect (aka zone pass blocking).

I would HATE to lose Vasquez. One of our highest rated players on offense (and on the OL of all places) and we might lose him because of scheme? Bad.

shoehater wrote: I would HATE to lose Vasquez. One of our highest rated players on offense (and on the OL of all places) and we might lose him because of scheme? Bad.

I don't think the coaching staff will move towards an entirely new scheme as OC Kenny da Wiz should be familiar with the man blocking scheme as this is what the Steelers ran when he was with them as a TE coach.  So I'm sure they will likely try to bond the two scheme man/zone and trying to do something like what the Pats, Saints, etc do with mixing it up.  Not to mention that Gaither, Clary, Vasquez (though the air raid has elements of zone blocking) and Troutman are all man scheme players that would have to learn the zone scheme.  Green (who is also set to be  a FA), Molk and Hardwick all come from a zone blocking background.

I watched the interview with Mike McCoy on Chargers.com and he kept stressing he's going to run what his players do best when he was asked if he was going to run a zone blocking scheme. Since we all know the current offensive line doesnt do anything well I think McCoy will have the new oline coach put in the zone blocking scheme. If that's the case we may want to take a serious look at Brian Winters in the third or fourth round.

http://www.milehighreport.com/...-denver-broncos

If I remember correctly I read that Andy Levitre was also an LT in college that had to switch to guard in the NFL.

toddhoopster wrote: I watched the interview with Mike McCoy on Chargers.com and he kept stressing he's going to run what his players do best. Since we all know the current offensive line doesnt do anything well...

I would guess that means he'll have them at the snap of the ball pull turkey sandwiches out of their pants and chow down, then.  They probably couldn't screw that up.

88Unbeatable82 wrote:

toddhoopster wrote: I watched the interview with Mike McCoy on Chargers.com and he kept stressing he's going to run what his players do best. Since we all know the current offensive line doesnt do anything well...

I would guess that means he'll have them at the snap of the ball pull turkey sandwiches out of their pants and chow down, then.  They probably couldn't screw that up.

You're giving them too much credit 88. 

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

Tyronne Green however is a perfect fit for this scheme.  Lighter 300's and about 6'2"-6-3"ish.  So yeah, I can see Green be a solid keeper is ZBS is a staple that will be implemented into the current scheme.  

 

There hasn't been much talk about Tyronne Green in the "keepers" category this offseason. I, for one, would like to see Green return whether the Chargers run a zone or man blocking scheme. He still has room to improve -- last season was his first as a starter -- and his versatility is a huge plus, especially if he is relegated to a backup role.

I don't care if we move to the Zone blocking or stay in the Man blocking scheme.  We just have to get rid of Clary and Harris who have formal training in the No blocking scheme!

McCoy is stating that we're not just going to be a zone blocking team. Again, this is my biggest hope - a coach who can mix it up and focus on our strengths (and the opponents weaknesses):

http://boltbeat.com/2013/02/20/were-not-just-going -to-be-a-zone-blocking-scheme-mike-mccoy/

shoehater wrote: McCoy is stating that we're not just going to be a zone blocking team. Again, this is my biggest hope - a coach who can mix it up and focus on our strengths (and the opponents weaknesses):

http://boltbeat.com/2013/02/20/were-not-just-going -to-be-a-zone-blocking-scheme-mike-mccoy/

Just to piggy back off of Shoe.


http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/feb/20/charger s-zone-blocking-mike-mccoy/