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LT Eric Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
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Posted: 01/25/2013 7:04 PM
LT Eric Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
We not only need one OT, we need at least 3, so I think it is as clear as day that we need to draft a LT in the first round.
By all accounts, our first round pick will be a LT, so which one?
Jeff Fisher or Lane Johnson?
Both appear to be very good, so I'm curious which one you prefer.
Who do you want for our next LT?
- Poll closed on 02/01/2013
- Jeff Fisher: 15 votes
- Lane Johnson: 3 votes
- Other. Please explain.: 2 votes
Two words: Offensive Line!
Last edited 01/25/2013 8:35 PM by chargers4life
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Posted: 01/25/2013 7:17 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
I would be happy with either guy but I like it that Lane Johnson has played QB so he has an understanding of what it's like to be blind sided
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Posted: 01/25/2013 7:51 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Neither. I think they're both good but not sure if they're better than Faulk or Bakhtiari. I do know Warford and Warmack are day one starters in this league. Would like to trade down and take Warford in first round
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Posted: 01/25/2013 7:53 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Isn't Jeff Fisher under contract as head coach of the Rams? ;-)
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Posted: 01/25/2013 7:54 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
It's actually Eric Fisher. But we all know what you meant.
As far as who I would prefer. In a head up player vs player I'd take Fisher. He's much more pro ready right now and in all honesty has similar upside as LJ. At this point in both their respective careers Fisher is stronger and just as agile as Johnson. Both are still very raw though compared to Joe. I think SD is in a great position to grab either of these two but if it was the 11th pick and it came down to Fish vs LJ you gotta go with BPA and IMHO Fish has the edge in the heads up comparison.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 8:02 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
DallasEire wrote: Neither. I think they're both good but not sure if they're better than Faulk or Bakhtiari. I do know Warford and Warmack are day one starters in this league. Would like to trade down and take Warford in first round I've filmed studied both Fish and Bak and Fisher by far is the better of the two. Not to say that Bak doesn't have a high ceiling because he does but right now I wouldn't put a 1st round grade on him. He's a solid 2nd round and a steal in the 3rd but definitely not a 1st round IMO. As for Faulk, at the beginning of the their respective season (prior to Faulks season ending injury) I would have definitely said Faulk but I'm not so sure just how Faulk will be returning from his injury. Faulk was already not a physical specimen he kind of looked like the Smith kid that plays for the Bengals (spare tire type body) but unlike Smith he moved really well for someone that looked like that. If Faulk had been fully healthy the entire season I likely would have said Faulk but due to the injury I'm not so sure Faulk would be my selection until I knew for sure that he would have been back to his old form. And that I won't gamble on for an 11th pick in the NFL draft. Maybe a 2nd rounder but never a 1st round 11th pick overall. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Keyser Soze
Last edited 01/25/2013 8:03 PM by Thisfrickinguy
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Posted: 01/25/2013 8:13 PM
RE: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Ya, looking at the tape I've seen thus far...I'd take Fisher. He looks more athletic, stronger and faster to me. But honestly either guy would represent a substantial upgrade.
I will say though if Fisher is gone and Warmack is there....I'd lean toward Warmack because of his ability to dominate. I think he'd be a huge difference maker on the interior with the run game and strengthening the pocket.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 8:14 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
--------------------------------------------- --- Thisfrickinguy wrote: DallasEire wrote: Neither. I think they're both good but not sure if they're better than Faulk or Bakhtiari. I do know Warford and Warmack are day one starters in this league. Would like to trade down and take Warford in first round I've filmed studied both Fish and Bak and Fisher by far is the better of the two. Not to say that Bak doesn't have a high ceiling because he does but right now I wouldn't put a 1st round grade on him. He's a solid 2nd round and a steal in the 3rd but definitely not a 1st round IMO. As for Faulk, at the beginning of the their respective season (prior to Faulks season ending injury) I would have definitely said Faulk but I'm not so sure just how Faulk will be returning from his injury. Faulk was already not a physical specimen he kind of looked like the Smith kid that plays for the Bengals (spare tire type body) but unlike Smith he moved really well for someone that looked like that. If Faulk had been fully healthy the entire season I likely would have said Faulk but due to the injury I'm not so sure Faulk would be my selection until I knew for sure that he would have been back to his old form. And that I won't gamble on for an 11th pick in the NFL draft. Maybe a 2nd rounder but never a 1st round 11th pick overall. --------------------------------------------- What do you think of Warford at LG? I think this guy is way better than originally considered. I like him better than Cooper and Warmack - if i can get an extra pick moving down from Warmack to Warford |
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Posted: 01/25/2013 8:37 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Oh crud. C1Joe, can you change the poll to Eric Fisher? Thisfrickinguy wrote: It's actually Eric Fisher. But we all know what you meant. Two words: Offensive Line!
Last edited 01/25/2013 8:40 PM by chargers4life
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Posted: 01/25/2013 8:37 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
DallasEire wrote:
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DallasEire wrote: Neither. I think they're both good but not sure if they're better than Faulk or Bakhtiari. I do know Warford and Warmack are day one starters in this league. Would like to trade down and take Warford in first round I've filmed studied both Fish and Bak and Fisher by far is the better of the two. Not to say that Bak doesn't have a high ceiling because he does but right now I wouldn't put a 1st round grade on him. He's a solid 2nd round and a steal in the 3rd but definitely not a 1st round IMO.
As for Faulk, at the beginning of the their respective season (prior to Faulks season ending injury) I would have definitely said Faulk but I'm not so sure just how Faulk will be returning from his injury. Faulk was already not a physical specimen he kind of looked like the Smith kid that plays for the Bengals (spare tire type body) but unlike Smith he moved really well for someone that looked like that.
If Faulk had been fully healthy the entire season I likely would have said Faulk but due to the injury I'm not so sure Faulk would be my selection until I knew for sure that he would have been back to his old form. And that I won't gamble on for an 11th pick in the NFL draft. Maybe a 2nd rounder but never a 1st round 11th pick overall.
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What do you think of Warford at LG? I think this guy is way better than originally considered. I like him better than Cooper and Warmack - if i can get an extra pick moving down from Warmack to Warford Warford is a solid guard. The one thing that the both Cooper and Warmack do better than Warford is they are better in the open field against moving LB's. Warford is a solid LG prospect though. He can handle pass pro one on one and is smart enough to see stunts and pick them up. He also a mauler and can get to the second level but is somewhat inconsistent blocking more athletic LB's at the second level. Warmack proved that he can handle picking up athletic LB's as he easily took Teo out of the picture during the National Championship game. Not to mention the SEC's finest. Cooper is more agile IMO than Warmack but Warmack is more physically dominate. Although that's not saying much because Cooper has highlights of him bullying DL also so it's kind of like splitting hairs with those two. That said Warford for me is a solid 2nd unless he can drop like 10 pound by combine time and show some improved agility. Warmack and Coop for sure are 1st round grades. But all 3 I have no doubts can play LG at a high level in the NFL. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
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Last edited 01/25/2013 8:40 PM by Thisfrickinguy
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Posted: 01/25/2013 8:40 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Fisher would be the better pick, but his stock has been steadily rising and is expected to keep doing so between now and the NFL Draft. No guarantees he'll even be available at No. 11.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 8:57 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Well, all that mattered was beating the Raiders. What was the score again?  MikeLombardo wrote: Fisher would be the better pick, but his stock has been steadily rising and is expected to keep doing so between now and the NFL Draft. No guarantees he'll even be available at No. 11. Two words: Offensive Line!
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Posted: 01/25/2013 9:01 PM
Re: LT Eric Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
I'd be just fine with either or. They are both athletic and can add more bulk and not lose their athleticability.
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Posted: 01/25/2013 11:17 PM
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BLG I dont think that is a word (athleticability ) but I like it! Check out the Trib article on Lane Johnson. He is a real athlete and played QB, TE and D line before moving to tackle! Lots of potential there but would try to move back in the 1st round to get him. BoltinLoudGuy wrote: I'd be just fine with either or. They are both athletic and can add more bulk and not lose their athleticability. |
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Posted: 01/26/2013 6:09 AM
Re: LT Eric Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
I'm leaning Johnson, but I need to do a bit more research...
My worry with Fisher is his size and mobility. He's a big man. Can he move those feet? Can he handle the speed rushers in the NFL? If there's any drill in the combine to watch, it's the footwork drills that OT's have to go through, and the positional drills of "walling off". You can see it in GAME TAPE, but you don't get to see the close-up, and depending on the level of competition, a "pedestrian" O-lineman can look like a blue chipper out there.
careful...
When thinking about OT's I think "can this guy block Von Miller?"
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Posted: 01/26/2013 9:43 AM
Re: LT Eric Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Yantha I think both of these guys can move their feet. Take a look at NFL.com where there is a senior bowl video with Mayock raving about both of these guys. Both Fischer and Johnson have good feet and are athletic.
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Posted: 01/26/2013 10:30 AM
Re: LT Eric Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Boy, I had no idea of the depth of desire some have to bring Jeff Fisher to this team. Now they'll take him even to play left tackle  . ---
"I've never been around a 24-year-old 12-year vet." |
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Posted: 01/26/2013 11:54 AM
Re: LT Eric Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Fisher for right now...Johnson for the future.
Johnson has a higher ceiling from what I have seen, but his moving around position-wise gives the nod to Fisher.
One nugget from the Senior Bowl practices...Fisher was watching YouTube footage of the guys he had to block in the off hours. That's an acheiver!
Johnson has adapted his personal life (marriage, honeymoon) to take care of business and get ready for the Draft.
The Chargers would not lose with either choice. Lets see how they fare in the Combine. I'm guessing Johnson's numbers will indicate he is a better atlete.
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Posted: 01/26/2013 1:10 PM
Re: LT Eric Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
Damottocerrect;-}. I did get a chance to read the UT article and thought it was a good piece on Johnson. IMO, I think when the whole process is done, I don't think Johnson will make it past Miami, St. Louis and New Orleans. He may only have 2 years experience but he has shown great progress in those 2 years. --------------------------------------------- --- slammer8 wrote: BLG I dont think that is a word (athleticability ) but I like it! Check out the Trib article on Lane Johnson. He is a real athlete and played QB, TE and D line before moving to tackle! Lots of potential there but would try to move back in the 1st round to get him. BoltinLoudGuy wrote: I'd be just fine with either or. They are both athletic and can add more bulk and not lose their athleticability. --------------------------------------------- |
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Posted: 01/29/2013 5:23 PM
Re: LT Jeff Fisher or LT Lane Johnson in 1st round?
MikeLombardo wrote: Fisher would be the better pick, but his stock has been steadily rising and is expected to keep doing so between now and the NFL Draft. No guarantees he'll even be available at No. 11. I would take Eric Fisher, nasty at run blocking. Did pretty well in the 1:1 drills at SR Bowl. |
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