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LATER ROUND OL PICK
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Posted: 01/04/2013 9:59 AM
LATER ROUND OL PICK
Kyle Long, Howie Long's youngest, looked pretty good as the Left Guard for U of O last night. He has less experience on the gridiron because he took a baseball scholarship out of HS and took awhile to get back to football.
What I read about him is that he has a high upside due to physical ability but is still a bit raw. However he looked good last night and we need a LOG! |
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Posted: 01/04/2013 10:00 AM
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Don't forget that we also have Johnnie Troutman.....
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Posted: 01/04/2013 11:38 AM
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I did forget that. Maybe on purpose. 1ARTIST wrote: Don't forget that we also have Johnnie Troutman..... |
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Posted: 01/04/2013 11:49 AM
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we should never pick another OL after the 4th round. If learned anything in the last 10 years under AJ, is that it is almost impossible to find an serviceable OL in the later rounds. I don't believe any of the late round OL that he selected have really amounted to anything except for Clary who was a 6th rounder and he has performed horribly these past few seasons. (what else would you expect from a late round OL lol)
Mock Draft
1)L.Johnson/J.Cooper
2)J.Taylor/D.Hopkins
3)A.Ellington/R.Alford
4)D.Quessenberry
5)B.Mcgee/TJ.Barnes
6)J.Boyce/E.Wolff
7)V.Williams/R.Rouse
UFA)S.Maponga/N.Robey/J.Francis
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Posted: 01/04/2013 3:00 PM
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WallyQuest wrote: we should never pick another OL after the 4th round. If learned anything in the last 10 years under AJ, is that it is almost impossible to find an serviceable OL in the later rounds. I don't believe any of the late round OL that he selected have really amounted to anything except for Clary who was a 6th rounder and he has performed horribly these past few seasons. (what else would you expect from a late round OL lol) I agree to a point....I think what you are saying is draft lineman earlier in the draft and more often. I would love to see a list of all the playoff teams this year and then look at what round all their offensive lineman were drafted....anyone up for that task? Would be interesting to look at...
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Posted: 01/04/2013 3:01 PM
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+100000 I cant put in words how disgusted i will be if we dont pick up 2 OL with our first 3 picks, im notinterested in waiting and rolling the dice anymore, we need surefire OL starters for the future and the odds are too bad after round 4 WallyQuest wrote: we should never pick another OL after the 4th round. If learned anything in the last 10 years under AJ, is that it is almost impossible to find an serviceable OL in the later rounds. I don't believe any of the late round OL that he selected have really amounted to anything except for Clary who was a 6th rounder and he has performed horribly these past few seasons. (what else would you expect from a late round OL lol) |
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Posted: 01/04/2013 3:40 PM
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The fourth round is usually a good spot for guards.
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Posted: 01/04/2013 5:37 PM
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Here you go Honk going off of the Yahoo depth charts.
Ravens
LT Michael Oher-1st
LG Jah Reid-3rd
C Matt Birk-6th
RG Marshal Yanda-3rd
RT Kelechi Osemele-2nd
Bengals
LT Andrew Whitworth-2nd
LG Clint Boling-4th
C Trevor Robinson-Undrafted
RG Kevin Zeitler-1st
RT Andre Smith-1st
Broncos
LT Ryan Clady-1st
LG Zane Beadles-2nd
C Dan Koppen-5th
RG Chris Kuper-5th
RT Orlando Franklin-2nd
Texans
LT Duane Brown-1st
LG Wade Smith-3rd
C Chris Myers-6th
RG Ben Jones-4th
RT Derek Newton-7th
Colts
LT Anthony Castanzo-1st
LG Joe Reitz-Undrafted
C Samson Satele-2nd
RG Mike McGlynn-4th
RT Winston Justice-2nd
Patriots
LT Nate Solder-1st
LG Logan Mankins-1st
C Ryan Wendell-Undrafted
RG Dan Connolly-Undrafted
RT Sebastian Vollmer-2nd
Falcons
LT Sam Baker-1st
LG Justin Blalock-2nd
C Todd McClure-7th
RG Peter Konz-2nd
RT Tyson Clabo-Undrafted
Packers
LT Marshall Newhouse-5th
LG T.J. Lang-4th
C Evan Dietrich-Smith-Undrafted
RG Josh Sitton-4th
RT Don Barclay-Undrafted
Vikings
LT Matt Kalil-1st
LG Charlie Johnson-6th
C John Sullivan-6th
RG Brandon Fusco-6th
RT Phil Loadholt-2nd
49ers
LT Joe Staley-1st
LG Mike Iupati-1st
C Jonathan Goodwin-5th
RG Alex Boone-Undrafted
RT Anthony Davis-1st
Seahawks
LT Russell Okung-1st
LG Paul McQuistan-3rd
C Max Unger-2nd
RG J.R. Sweezy-7th
RT Breno Giacomini-5th
Redskins
LT Trent Williams-1st
LG Kory Lichtensteiger-4th
C Will Montgomery-7th
RG Chris Chester-2nd
RT Tyler Polumbus-Undrafted
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Posted: 01/04/2013 6:53 PM
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I counted only 6 Tackles out of 24 total that were drafted round after the second round and 2 of them are from the packers who have one of the worst OL in the NFL. and every team except the packers have a 1st round Tackle on their team.
RG and C were usually the lowest drafted and those are the only two positions we do not need.
Mock Draft
1)L.Johnson/J.Cooper
2)J.Taylor/D.Hopkins
3)A.Ellington/R.Alford
4)D.Quessenberry
5)B.Mcgee/TJ.Barnes
6)J.Boyce/E.Wolff
7)V.Williams/R.Rouse
UFA)S.Maponga/N.Robey/J.Francis
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Posted: 01/04/2013 6:54 PM
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Thanks!
Looks like a looooot of 1st and 2nds!!!
Guess AJ Smith didn't notice that pattern.
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Posted: 01/04/2013 7:20 PM
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He was to busy noticing his own patterns. late round nobodies.  Chargerhonk wrote: Thanks!
Looks like a looooot of 1st and 2nds!!!
Guess AJ Smith didn't notice that pattern. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Keyser Soze
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Posted: 01/04/2013 7:29 PM
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Damn. Those 49ers sure know how to prioritize their draft picks and hit paydirt with them. If and when the Chargers can match their OL talent with their DL talent, watch out. I hope we sign Gamble as our GM.
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Posted: 01/04/2013 8:06 PM
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Thisfrickinguy wrote: He was to busy noticing his own patterns. late round nobodies.
Chargerhonk wrote: Thanks!
Looks like a looooot of 1st and 2nds!!!
Guess AJ Smith didn't notice that pattern. Late round nobodies....that's giving him too much credit. Just ask Mike Harris! Heeeelllllooo!!!
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Posted: 01/04/2013 11:07 PM
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I like the idea of them getting the dude from SF to be our GM. I dont have a problem with them getting an Oline player in the 4th round but this year it better be after they already picked up a stud in round 1 or 2.
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Posted: 01/04/2013 11:12 PM
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Because he had this arrogant belief that he could find great OT's off the street. So arrogant that we didn't even have OT's that were drafted; not even in the 7th round. Just street walkers used to protect our franchise QB. Good bye AJ!!!! Chargerhonk wrote: Thanks!
Looks like a looooot of 1st and 2nds!!!
Guess AJ Smith didn't notice that pattern. Two words: Offensive Line!
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Posted: 01/05/2013 6:59 AM
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There is nothing wrong with picking offensive linemen late in the draft -- you just have to set your expectations accordingly. I think Scott Mruczkowski would be considered an excellent draft pick, a 2003 seventh-rounder who ended up appearing in 83 games, starting 16 of them. He never ended up being a Pro Bowler or even a full-time starter, but he provided solid depth at several positions for the better part of seven seasons. I'd consider that pick a full-blown success ... the Chargers could use more like it.
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Posted: 01/05/2013 7:30 AM
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I agree with Mike here. There is definitely nothing wrong with looking at late round OL but when you believe that late rounders will pan out as soon as the early round guys that are considered ready to start and be an impact immediately. Well, you're just setting yourself up for a huge failure and disappointment.
Yes, the early rounders are just as big a crap shot as the later rounders but there is a reason why certain guys are considered 1st rounders and why others are considered late to undrafted stock types. It's because they've shown a certain promise and potential at the previous level.
If you as GM are unwilling to go 1st round with OL, 2nd and 3rd are just as solid areas to find at least starting potential/level guys. Not that you can't find late round gems but more often then not, those later rounders are more project and work in progress types that can potentially pan out to be starters later on in their careers rather than immediately.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Keyser Soze
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Posted: 01/05/2013 11:45 AM
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Bambi...nice bit of homework. It shows how the OLine is similar to all of the positions by draft selection...high picks sprinkled in with low and undrafted guys. Thanks.
I'm not sold on our back-up lineman and think we need to find a future Center, thus Fourth and Fifth round guys might work. After the stud OT's, of course!
Joeckel, Mathews, from A&M and Lane Johnson from Oklahoma all looked good in the Cotton Bowl. They could have started for the Chargers this past season!
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Posted: 01/05/2013 7:55 PM
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My biggest fear is Joeckel is gone at the 11th pick, and we reach on a tackle when there's a ton of defensive studs sitting on the board.
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Posted: 01/05/2013 8:02 PM
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Perhaps, we should change our draft strategy to Best Player Available?
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