What type of HC are you looking for this offseason?

1. Offensive minded
2. Defensive minded
3. Hard ass no nonsense
4. Easy going coach players love
5. No special trait on either side of the ball, a good coach
6. No special trait on either side of the ball, good motivator
7. History of winning (provided by 1Artist)

If I missed a general HC concept please feel free to add yours.

Good question...

Hard ass, no nonsense is number one, since Camp Cupcake is now gone.

I really don't want an older coach, retread, who has been around for awhile.

I am hoping for a head coach who is a little younger and has more fire in his belly. With that said, you hope any coach that comes is both offensive and defensive minded and is a good motivator.

We shall see....But first they need to hire a GM right? Even the hiring of a head coach/GM is so far been kind of screwy with Ron Wolf saying one thing and the front office doing something else.

Someone with a recent history of winning! That'd be a great start. Arians is a great candidate in that regard.

But, I also have to admit that Chip Kelly is very intriguing simply because of his innovation and aggressive playcalling. Personally whether it's Arians or anyone else....I'd like to see someone give Rivers a chance to go up tempo and call plays at the line of scrimmage in the same way Peyton does. He's a smart QB who knows defenses....it's about time we maximize his ability!

1ARTIST wrote: Someone with a recent history of winning! That'd be a great start. Arians is a great candidate in that regard.

But, I also have to admit that Chip Kelly is very intriguing simply because of his innovation and aggressive playcalling. Personally whether it's Arians or anyone else....I'd like to see someone give Rivers a chance to go up tempo and call plays at the line of scrimmage in the same way Peyton does. He's a smart QB who knows defenses....it's about time we maximize his ability!

I would be ecstatic with Chip Kelly. I think he's a real innovator and a winner. Bring him in!!! Please!!!

If its possible to get a guy with both Honks and 1Artist preferred traits I would sleep in my Charger jersey. Damn fellas, that the stuff!!

No nonsense, get it done with a guy who has a history of winning and would bring an uptempo offense. Light Like!

I take media analysis with a grain of salt but I've heard a lot of NFL network guys say Chip isnt NFL ready. Watching the ducks I dont get that but seams to be the knock on him.

Any reason why?

Chargerhonk wrote:

1ARTIST wrote: Someone with a recent history of winning! That'd be a great start. Arians is a great candidate in that regard.

But, I also have to admit that Chip Kelly is very intriguing simply because of his innovation and aggressive playcalling. Personally whether it's Arians or anyone else....I'd like to see someone give Rivers a chance to go up tempo and call plays at the line of scrimmage in the same way Peyton does. He's a smart QB who knows defenses....it's about time we maximize his ability!

I would be ecstatic with Chip Kelly. I think he's a real innovator and a winner. Bring him in!!! Please!!!

I haven't read that. But I do believe that there's a huge difference between motivating young adults in college (18-21) and motivating grown men who are millionaires.

Good thread, Light, and I will restate what I have already stated in other threads.

The overwhelming criterion I look for is a guy who believes, and I mean to his core B-E-L-I-E-V-E-S, in the tried and true approach to building a team that has always won in this league.  You win by building from the inside out, and no, catch that, NO other way.  Period!

I don't want someone who thinks he has another in the gazillions of "newfangled" ways of "taking the league by surprise" that have failed miserably over the decades.  Sure, there will always be the one-in-a-million Bill Walsh guy who makes it work, but who in his/her right mind wants those odds?

Not me.

And San Diego has traditionally favored "other ways" of building its teams over the years, preferring the "glitz and glamour" players to the best of the "big uglies".

Could they, just once, try it the "big ugly" way?

Just this once?

Please?

I would say no to Chip Kelly, because of his offensive scheme...Great for Car,Was, Sea, SF, not us, with Frozen Rivers.....

I would like someone like Arians, someone who has been successful at the NFL level....

88, you don't think Marty's way was the "Big Ugly" way?

88Unbeatable82 wrote: Good thread, Light, and I will restate what I have already stated in other threads.

The overwhelming criterion I look for is a guy who believes, and I mean to his core B-E-L-I-E-V-E-S, in the tried and true approach to building a team that has always won in this league.  You win by building from the inside out, and no, catch that, NO other way.  Period!

I don't want someone who thinks he has another in the gazillions of "newfangled" ways of "taking the league by surprise" that have failed miserably over the decades.  Sure, there will always be the one-in-a-million Bill Walsh guy who makes it work, but who in his/her right mind wants those odds?

Not me.

And San Diego has traditionally favored "other ways" of building its teams over the years, preferring the "glitz and glamour" players to the best of the "big uglies".

Could they, just once, try it the "big ugly" way?

Just this once?

Please?

The old dude on NFL network has said it repeated times. That Chip isnt ready. Your point might be his. Very true.

1ARTIST wrote: I haven't read that. But I do believe that there's a huge difference between motivating young adults in college (18-21) and motivating grown men who are millionaires.

We've seen far too many homegrown talents leave to sparkle somewhere else. Drives me bonkers. Part of that belief you speak of is communicating it with the team and getting them to buy into the concept of team first. Get a trophy for this city and try to make a run at it. I think if you communicate those goals and build a team atmosphere that the "pay me big sucka" type players become less frequent.

I truly believe if we treated VJ with dignity, had a team concept and goal of the SB that everyone bought into, he would have stayed for a little less. Or atleast made his contract manageable to the team. In the case of Sproles we ended up paying him more in FT's than he got in NO over 3 years so that was even worse.

Do you think this is something the HC can build himself or does ownership need some influence in this too? And if ownership is needed, do you see it in Spanos?

88Unbeatable82 wrote: Good thread, Light, and I will restate what I have already stated in other threads.

The overwhelming criterion I look for is a guy who believes, and I mean to his core B-E-L-I-E-V-E-S, in the tried and true approach to building a team that has always won in this league.  You win by building from the inside out, and no, catch that, NO other way.  Period!

I don't want someone who thinks he has another in the gazillions of "newfangled" ways of "taking the league by surprise" that have failed miserably over the decades.  Sure, there will always be the one-in-a-million Bill Walsh guy who makes it work, but who in his/her right mind wants those odds?

Not me.

And San Diego has traditionally favored "other ways" of building its teams over the years, preferring the "glitz and glamour" players to the best of the "big uglies".

Could they, just once, try it the "big ugly" way?

Just this once?

Please?

LightEmUp1 wrote: The old dude on NFL network has said it repeated times. That Chip isnt ready. Your point might be his. Very true.

1ARTIST wrote: I haven't read that. But I do believe that there's a huge difference between motivating young adults in college (18-21) and motivating grown men who are millionaires.

You mean Casserly?  If that's the case, then Kelly is ready to lead a team to the SB.

Thats the guy.

SDChargers85fan wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: The old dude on NFL network has said it repeated times. That Chip isnt ready. Your point might be his. Very true.

1ARTIST wrote: I haven't read that. But I do believe that there's a huge difference between motivating young adults in college (18-21) and motivating grown men who are millionaires.

You mean Casserly?  If that's the case, then Kelly is ready to lead a team to the SB.

I'm sorry that I keep bringing up the same name but I think Mike Zimmer is the guy were looking for.

He is a defensive minded coach, hard ass/no nonsense, one of the best motivators in the league, and he is all about fundamentals.

I seriously believe he could bring a culture change to San Diego. No more laid back, piece of cake training camps, he will hold the players accountable, and there will be a significant decrease in stupid plays/turnovers that we have become accustomed to her in SD.

one sign that he is a great coach is that he has been able to turn the Cincinnati defense that is full of trouble makers (Pacman jones, Vonaze Burfict, Rey Mauluga, etc.) into one of the top defenses in the league.

id prefer a D minded, tuff but fair... no noncence but likeable and respectable... great teacher, motivator, attention to detail, who is only the head coach... and actually lets the cordinators do their jobs, pays attention to the whole team. fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals cant express this enough. also want my team build in the trenches. great D, balanced O, but great running team, a team that when other teams play us win or lose they feel like they just got their butts wooped.

I like the idea of a no-nonsense, passionate head coach.

To be honest, though, I think the real important hires will be his OC and DC. To me, in MOST cases, this is where a head coach is successful or not. I don't want our guy to be the play caller on either side of the ball. Just get us ready to play, manage the game, hold people accountable, and let a good OC and DC make the game play calls.

It worked for Marty during the regular season. It worked for Andy Reid while he had Jim Johnson. It works for Tomlin with Dick Lebeau. And so on and so forth.

It's so rare to find a head coach who can run the team and the game all while trying to think up the next offensive (or defensive) play. This is one of several reasons Norv isn't a good head coach.

1ARTIST wrote: 88, you don't think Marty's way was the "Big Ugly" way?

88Unbeatable82 wrote: Good thread, Light, and I will restate what I have already stated in other threads.

The overwhelming criterion I look for is a guy who believes, and I mean to his core B-E-L-I-E-V-E-S, in the tried and true approach to building a team that has always won in this league.  You win by building from the inside out, and no, catch that, NO other way.  Period!

I don't want someone who thinks he has another in the gazillions of "newfangled" ways of "taking the league by surprise" that have failed miserably over the decades.  Sure, there will always be the one-in-a-million Bill Walsh guy who makes it work, but who in his/her right mind wants those odds?

Not me.

And San Diego has traditionally favored "other ways" of building its teams over the years, preferring the "glitz and glamour" players to the best of the "big uglies".

Could they, just once, try it the "big ugly" way?

Just this once?

Please?

If not for his one fatal flaw, the fact that he was scared to death of making any mistakes in the biggest games (which, of course, almost always leads to doing just that), Marty would likely have multiple Super Bowl titles in his career by now, and be a sure fire Hall of Famer.

His one problem was NEVER a failure to understand how to build a winning team.  Just in not being able to "turn it loose" on the biggest of stages.

LightEmUp1 wrote: We've seen far too many homegrown talents leave to sparkle somewhere else. Drives me bonkers. Part of that belief you speak of is communicating it with the team and getting them to buy into the concept of team first. Get a trophy for this city and try to make a run at it. I think if you communicate those goals and build a team atmosphere that the "pay me big sucka" type players become less frequent.

I truly believe if we treated VJ with dignity, had a team concept and goal of the SB that everyone bought into, he would have stayed for a little less. Or atleast made his contract manageable to the team. In the case of Sproles we ended up paying him more in FT's than he got in NO over 3 years so that was even worse.

Do you think this is something the HC can build himself or does ownership need some influence in this too? And if ownership is needed, do you see it in Spanos?

88Unbeatable82 wrote: Good thread, Light, and I will restate what I have already stated in other threads.

The overwhelming criterion I look for is a guy who believes, and I mean to his core B-E-L-I-E-V-E-S, in the tried and true approach to building a team that has always won in this league.  You win by building from the inside out, and no, catch that, NO other way.  Period!

I don't want someone who thinks he has another in the gazillions of "newfangled" ways of "taking the league by surprise" that have failed miserably over the decades.  Sure, there will always be the one-in-a-million Bill Walsh guy who makes it work, but who in his/her right mind wants those odds?

Not me.

And San Diego has traditionally favored "other ways" of building its teams over the years, preferring the "glitz and glamour" players to the best of the "big uglies".

Could they, just once, try it the "big ugly" way?

Just this once?

Please?

I'm not dismissing you here, Light, but as for me personally, I just have no interest in the topic of whose fault(s) it was that certain players are no longer here.  That's a subject that is about 99.99999% speculation, with almost no facts available for us.  And I'm pretty much only interested in discussing topics I have some knowledge about, which is what I see on the field during games.  I may occasionally make a comment about a topic like this, but it's rare.

I know plenty here who love this topic, though, so I'm sure you can get plenty of responses to it.  Almost all of my interest in this game, though, is in the "Xs and Os" on the field.

Sorry .

WallyQuest wrote: I'm sorry that I keep bringing up the same name but I think Mike Zimmer is the guy were looking for.

He is a defensive minded coach, hard ass/no nonsense, one of the best motivators in the league, and he is all about fundamentals.

I seriously believe he could bring a culture change to San Diego. No more laid back, piece of cake training camps, he will hold the players accountable, and there will be a significant decrease in stupid plays/turnovers that we have become accustomed to her in SD.

one sign that he is a great coach is that he has been able to turn the Cincinnati defense that is full of trouble makers (Pacman jones, Vonaze Burfict, Rey Mauluga, etc.) into one of the top defenses in the league.

You may be 100% correct.  He certainly has a very good reputation within the league, and he has had some success, that's a certainty.  We'll never know unless/until he gets that chance, but if he believes in what I stated about how to build a team that traditionally wins in this league, and a guy like Ron Wolf thinks he has what it takes, I'd be interested in seeing what he could do in San Diego.