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Posted: 01/03/2013 1:18 PM
Lovie Smith?
I heard on ESPN radio that he was contacted by the Chargers. I thought they wanted a GM first. I am surprised.
Still the biggest Charger fan in the ATL
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Posted: 01/03/2013 1:26 PM
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I definitely wouldn't mind him as the next Chargers head coach. It's amazing how little he had to work with for the bears this season and still manage to get them at a 10-6 record, despite missing the playoffs.
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Posted: 01/03/2013 1:38 PM
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Is it the culture of the Chicago Bears that made Lovie Smith or does he share their same mindset?
Whoever it is needs to be a hardass with expectations on player improvement, development and goals. No pushovers please.
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Posted: 01/03/2013 2:17 PM
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Didn't he completely disregard the O-line in Chicago? I thought they wanted an offensive-minded coach?
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Posted: 01/03/2013 3:19 PM
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I'm not saying he isn't a serious candidate, but the Chargers would be in compliance with the Rooney rule by bringing Smith in.
I know the Bolts are really hot on Arians, and may bring him in as early Monday or Tuesday.
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Posted: 01/03/2013 3:25 PM
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charger1joe wrote: I'm not saying he isn't a serious candidate, but the Chargers would be in compliance with the Rooney rule by bringing Smith in.
I know the Bolts are really hot on Arians, and may bring him in as early Monday or Tuesday. Since the only person I've heard so far actually say that the Bolts are going to hire a GM before interviewing any head coaches is Ron Wolf, does that mean that he's somewhat clueless about what's really going on? It sure sounds like the process is happening in reverse of that order. Unless, of course, they've already decided to go with Raye as GM, or my theory in the Wolf thread about having Wolf be GM for one or two years, and then handing it over to li'l Spanos, like Dean has reportedly been planning to do for quite some time, is actually true  . ---
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Posted: 01/03/2013 3:28 PM
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Ya, as soon as I saw the headline I figured Rooney rule. I believe the Rooney rule also applies to the GM hire....so the Chargers, by interviewing Jimmy Raye have also fulfilled that requirement. charger1joe wrote: I'm not saying he isn't a serious candidate, but the Chargers would be in compliance with the Rooney rule by bringing Smith in.
I know the Bolts are really hot on Arians, and may bring him in as early Monday or Tuesday. |
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Posted: 01/03/2013 3:30 PM
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Ron Wolf as a consultant is an interesting hire. He isn't a Chargers insider with an insight into the Chargers roster and culture that a key member of the decision making team should possess. What he does have is experience as a working NFL executive, along with comprehensive knowledge of several executive candidates being considered for this position. I know some will see this as a criticism, but both of these criteria should have been under the umbrella of the Chargers team President. I'm glad Dean Spanos is stepping aside, the void in the oversight over football operations has been glaringly obvious. 88Unbeatable82 wrote:
charger1joe wrote: I'm not saying he isn't a serious candidate, but the Chargers would be in compliance with the Rooney rule by bringing Smith in.
I know the Bolts are really hot on Arians, and may bring him in as early Monday or Tuesday.
Since the only person I've heard so far actually say that the Bolts are going to hire a GM before interviewing any head coaches is Ron Wolf, does that mean that he's somewhat clueless about what's really going on? It sure sounds like the process is happening in reverse of that order.
Unless, of course, they've already decided to go with Raye as GM, or my theory in the Wolf thread about having Wolf be GM for one or two years, and then handing it over to li'l Spanos, like Dean has reportedly been planning to do for quite some time, is actually true . |
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Posted: 01/03/2013 3:36 PM
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Also Wolf was hired by the Raiders last season too, in the same capacity, so he's probably very up to date with a lot of the candidates who are out there.
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Posted: 01/03/2013 3:45 PM
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All of this motion and commotion to coach/manage a game that sells itself. Geesh.
Why cant they just get guys that are committed to winning, have shown success in the past and explain to them expectations and timelines?
I think the media makes this sound and look more interesting/difficult than it really is.
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Posted: 01/03/2013 4:10 PM
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88Unbeatable82 wrote:
charger1joe wrote: I'm not saying he isn't a serious candidate, but the Chargers would be in compliance with the Rooney rule by bringing Smith in.
I know the Bolts are really hot on Arians, and may bring him in as early Monday or Tuesday.
Since the only person I've heard so far actually say that the Bolts are going to hire a GM before interviewing any head coaches is Ron Wolf, does that mean that he's somewhat clueless about what's really going on? It sure sounds like the process is happening in reverse of that order.
Unless, of course, they've already decided to go with Raye as GM, or my theory in the Wolf thread about having Wolf be GM for one or two years, and then handing it over to li'l Spanos, like Dean has reportedly been planning to do for quite some time, is actually true . The UT indicated that the younger Spanos is going to take over Dean's job and will never be the GM which made me feel much better. |
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Posted: 01/03/2013 5:55 PM
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BrewinAU wrote:
88Unbeatable82 wrote:
charger1joe wrote: I'm not saying he isn't a serious candidate, but the Chargers would be in compliance with the Rooney rule by bringing Smith in.
I know the Bolts are really hot on Arians, and may bring him in as early Monday or Tuesday.
Since the only person I've heard so far actually say that the Bolts are going to hire a GM before interviewing any head coaches is Ron Wolf, does that mean that he's somewhat clueless about what's really going on? It sure sounds like the process is happening in reverse of that order.
Unless, of course, they've already decided to go with Raye as GM, or my theory in the Wolf thread about having Wolf be GM for one or two years, and then handing it over to li'l Spanos, like Dean has reportedly been planning to do for quite some time, is actually true . The UT indicated that the younger Spanos is going to take over Dean's job and will never be the GM which made me feel much better. Thanks for the update. Can you post a link to show where that was reported? Because if that's true, it has been getting reported incorrectly for quite some time, then. ---
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Posted: 01/03/2013 5:57 PM
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im surprised we maybe getting a new HC before a new GM
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Posted: 01/03/2013 6:24 PM
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Only if you believe there isn't a GM already in waiting. If you believe Raye's the guy then it all makes sense. kiwibolt wrote: im surprised we maybe getting a new HC before a new GM |
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Posted: 01/03/2013 6:41 PM
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I heard it this afternoon on ESPN radio on XM Radio. No link, so we may have to take it with a grain of salt. --------------------------------------------- --- 88Unbeatable82 wrote: BrewinAU wrote:
88Unbeatable82 wrote:
charger1joe wrote: I'm not saying he isn't a serious candidate, but the Chargers would be in compliance with the Rooney rule by bringing Smith in.
I know the Bolts are really hot on Arians, and may bring him in as early Monday or Tuesday.
Since the only person I've heard so far actually say that the Bolts are going to hire a GM before interviewing any head coaches is Ron Wolf, does that mean that he's somewhat clueless about what's really going on? It sure sounds like the process is happening in reverse of that order.
Unless, of course, they've already decided to go with Raye as GM, or my theory in the Wolf thread about having Wolf be GM for one or two years, and then handing it over to li'l Spanos, like Dean has reportedly been planning to do for quite some time, is actually true . The UT indicated that the younger Spanos is going to take over Dean's job and will never be the GM which made me feel much better. Thanks for the update. Can you post a link to show where that was reported? Because if that's true, it has been getting reported incorrectly for quite some time, then. ---------------------------------------------
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Posted: 01/04/2013 12:25 PM
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Here's a link saying John will bypass the GM role and go straight into Dean's role: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports /21470632/report-chargers-president-dean-spanos-to -hand-reins-to-his-son-john TreWells wrote: I heard it this afternoon on ESPN radio on XM Radio. No link, so we may have to take it with a grain of salt.
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BrewinAU wrote:
88Unbeatable82 wrote:
charger1joe wrote: I'm not saying he isn't a serious candidate, but the Chargers would be in compliance with the Rooney rule by bringing Smith in.
I know the Bolts are really hot on Arians, and may bring him in as early Monday or Tuesday.
Since the only person I've heard so far actually say that the Bolts are going to hire a GM before interviewing any head coaches is Ron Wolf, does that mean that he's somewhat clueless about what's really going on? It sure sounds like the process is happening in reverse of that order.
Unless, of course, they've already decided to go with Raye as GM, or my theory in the Wolf thread about having Wolf be GM for one or two years, and then handing it over to li'l Spanos, like Dean has reportedly been planning to do for quite some time, is actually true . The UT indicated that the younger Spanos is going to take over Dean's job and will never be the GM which made me feel much better.
Thanks for the update. Can you post a link to show where that was reported? Because if that's true, it has been getting reported incorrectly for quite some time, then.
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Posted: 01/04/2013 12:56 PM
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This article points to what I indicated has been getting reported for a long while now (ignore the fact that Acee really blew chunks throughout the rest of this article). http://www.utsandiego.com/news...-good-chargers/Now, the prevailing feeling is that John’s presence is a deterrent to potential general manager candidates. It’s a natural assumption and may, in fact, be true. It has long been known the path John is on to assume a role that is sort of a hybrid of his father’s and Smith’s.That last sentence is Acee's way of trying cover the fact that for a long time now, the entire San Diego sporting news world has been reporting that li'l Spanos would, indeed, be replacing AJ Smith when Smith's contract expired. They just didn't report that his role would encompass both those of Smith's and his father's, like this comment indicates. To his credit, in his response li'l Spanos tries to spin it as a positive for whomever the new GM ends up being. And I have no reason to doubt him, either. I still think, however, that it could very well turn off some potential candidates. But we shall see. ---
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Posted: 01/04/2013 1:58 PM
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At the same time, Acee quotes him as saying "The next G.M. is going to have full say over personnel matters. It’s not like in any way I would be a hindrance to his doing his job."
Hopefully that's not just lip service, but at any rate I'm delighted to hear that John Spanos will not be our GM. I thought the funny part of that article is Acee being impressed by John Spanos drifting into the wrong lane on a freeway. Sometimes it seems like Acee and Canepa would be starstruck by someone in the FO ordering a cheeseburger. 88Unbeatable82 wrote: This article points to what I indicated has been getting reported for a long while now (ignore the fact that Acee really blew chunks throughout the rest of this article).
http://www.utsandiego.com/news...-good-chargers/
Now, the prevailing feeling is that John’s presence is a deterrent to potential general manager candidates. It’s a natural assumption and may, in fact, be true. It has long been known the path John is on to assume a role that is sort of a hybrid of his father’s and Smith’s.
That last sentence is Acee's way of trying cover the fact that for a long time now, the entire San Diego sporting news world has been reporting that li'l Spanos would, indeed, be replacing AJ Smith when Smith's contract expired. They just didn't report that his role would encompass both those of Smith's and his father's, like this comment indicates.
To his credit, in his response li'l Spanos tries to spin it as a positive for whomever the new GM ends up being. And I have no reason to doubt him, either. I still think, however, that it could very well turn off some potential candidates.
But we shall see.
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Posted: 01/04/2013 2:09 PM
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After backing Norv and AJ for years your suprised Acee is easily impressed? HunterSTomlinson wrote: At the same time, Acee quotes him as saying "The next G.M. is going to have full say over personnel matters. It’s not like in any way I would be a hindrance to his doing his job."
Hopefully that's not just lip service, but at any rate I'm delighted to hear that John Spanos will not be our GM.
I thought the funny part of that article is Acee being impressed by John Spanos drifting into the wrong lane on a freeway. Sometimes it seems like Acee and Canepa would be starstruck by someone in the FO ordering a cheeseburger.
88Unbeatable82 wrote: This article points to what I indicated has been getting reported for a long while now (ignore the fact that Acee really blew chunks throughout the rest of this article).
http://www.utsandiego.com/news...-good-chargers/
Now, the prevailing feeling is that John’s presence is a deterrent to potential general manager candidates. It’s a natural assumption and may, in fact, be true. It has long been known the path John is on to assume a role that is sort of a hybrid of his father’s and Smith’s.
That last sentence is Acee's way of trying cover the fact that for a long time now, the entire San Diego sporting news world has been reporting that li'l Spanos would, indeed, be replacing AJ Smith when Smith's contract expired. They just didn't report that his role would encompass both those of Smith's and his father's, like this comment indicates.
To his credit, in his response li'l Spanos tries to spin it as a positive for whomever the new GM ends up being. And I have no reason to doubt him, either. I still think, however, that it could very well turn off some potential candidates.
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Posted: 01/04/2013 3:55 PM
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Yeah, that's why I said that for purposes of the point being discussed, please ignore the rest of that article. It would be easy to get lost in its idiocy. It rivals the sheer stupidity of BobbyFun's statement during this past season about how if he just started having fun again, he'd immediately be the great receiver he was brought in to be. Apparently being distracted enough by a conversation while driving that he veered slightly into another lane, but didn't wreck, makes li'l Spanos the league's next great GM in Acee's eyes. And everyone else should just automatically, as a matter of common sense, know exactly what he means  . Unlike some here, I think Acee has done a pretty solid job getting mostly accurate information out over the years. But this article was just utterly moronic. And honestly, he deserves to be laughed at and mocked for it by not only us readers, but others in his profession across the league, too. I would expect the same if I, as a 25+ year software developer, put an image of a naked man dancing across the screen in a business application for its presentation to clients. Just totally stupid. ---
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