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Chatting with Jonas Mouton

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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:45 AM

Chatting with Jonas Mouton 


SDBR Exclusive: One-on-One with Jonas Mouton

Jonas Mouton is done biding his time. After missing most of 2011 with a shoulder injury and being stuck on the inactive list for this season’s first dozen games, he has cracked the rotation and gotten back to what he does best -- tormenting ball carriers. He visits SDBoltReport.com to talk of learning from John Pagano, following in Donald Butler’s footsteps and more. Read More...



Mouton was one of A.J. Smith's more controversial draft picks. Not because of his character, but because of concerns he may not have second-round talent. He has now cracked the rotation and is going about proving the skeptics wrong. With a strong finish this season, he has a chance to start alongside Donald Butler in 2013.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:06 PM

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Mike, is this a joke?  Strong season and chance to crack starting lineup?  I thought Spikes was slow in coverage until I say Mouton.  And with no ILB's - and out of playoff contention you'd think he could earn PT.  Like saying there's a chance he's not a bust - there isn't!
MikeLombardo wrote: SDBR Exclusive: One-on-One with Jonas Mouton

Jonas Mouton is done biding his time. After missing most of 2011 with a shoulder injury and being stuck on the inactive list for this season’s first dozen games, he has cracked the rotation and gotten back to what he does best -- tormenting ball carriers. He visits SDBoltReport.com to talk of learning from John Pagano, following in Donald Butler’s footsteps and more. Read More...



Mouton was one of A.J. Smith's more controversial draft picks. Not because of his character, but because of concerns he may not have second-round talent. He has now cracked the rotation and is going about proving the skeptics wrong. With a strong finish this season, he has a chance to start alongside Donald Butler in 2013.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:57 PM

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“I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people.”
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Posted: 12/14/2012 4:58 PM

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Jonas sux.. Another stupid AJ reach that should have been a walk on instead of a second round pick
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:15 PM

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It's not a joke, it's a crappy writer trying to pass time with horrible interviews.

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. "

Galileo
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:26 PM

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Tough crowd.

I'm personally excited to see this kid play and see what he has to offer on the field.

Time to start playing our young players.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 5:39 PM

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Mouton has to be right up there with Buster Davis and Larry English in the super reach busts of the AJ Smith era. Hated the pick at the time and he has done nothing to change my feelings about it. Some people on this board should be eating some crow on Mouton. I can remember a few people trying to argue that all we needed to do was fix our special teams so taking a guy like Mouton over higher rated players who had shown more ability and upside was the right thing to do. The goal with a 2nd round pick should never be just to get a good special teamer and we didn't even get that in Mouton.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 6:20 PM

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Mouton has to be right up there with Buster Davis and Larry English in the super reach busts of the AJ Smith era. Hated the pick at the time and he has done nothing to change my feelings about it. Some people on this board should be eating some crow on Mouton. I can remember a few people trying to argue that all we needed to do was fix our special teams so taking a guy like Mouton over higher rated players who had shown more ability and upside was the right thing to do. The goal with a 2nd round pick should never be just to get a good special teamer and we didn't even get that in Mouton.

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This. The Gilchrist and Mouton picks were awful given, not only, where they were selected but that AJ appeared to be using second round picks to address special teams. Especially, in light of the glaring example of failure when Dallas employed that strategy a few short years prior
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Posted: 12/14/2012 7:14 PM

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I fully expect to see newly acquired Gary Guyton to play more than Mouton in the coming weeks.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 8:04 PM

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once we get a new GM I have no doubt Mouton will be one of the first to go.. good riddance.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 8:20 PM

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You guys dont even really know if the kid can play or not. Remember he missed his entire rookie year secondary to injury and he has not been active yet.  Lombardo said if he has a strong finish of the season and not that he has had a strong season.  I dont know what kind of a player he is and will watch what he does the rest of the season.
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Posted: 12/14/2012 8:50 PM

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+1

Well said

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You guys dont even really know if the kid can play or not. Remember he missed his entire rookie year secondary to injury and he has not been active yet.  Lombardo said if he has a strong finish of the season and not that he has had a strong season.  I dont know what kind of a player he is and will watch what he does the rest of the season.

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Posted: 12/14/2012 11:15 PM

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Frankly, I'm shocked by the responses in this thread. You've all seen how much of Mouton to determine he isn't worth a hill of beans? At best his grade is an INC at this point leaning towards bust, but he's been hurt which obviously keeps him off the field. With his skillset he could be a dynamo STer and better ILB then Gachkar (who we've been forced to use too often of late).
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Posted: 12/15/2012 8:35 AM

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blah, the problem is that he is another one of those panic reaches that AJ is famous for. He may indeed end up being a great special teams player but that will never justify his second round pick. The three biggest reaches I can think of are 1.Mouton 2.English 3. Hester.... It hasn't worked out with the other two and I don't expect it will with Mouton either
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Posted: 12/15/2012 8:56 AM

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Here's a few notable picks after Mouton was taken and you will see why the Chargers are where they are today... 30 MIA Daniel Thomas, RB, Kansas St.,31 PIT Marcus Gilbert, OL, Florida, 32 GB Randall Cobb, WR, Kentucky, where all taken right after Mouton and a few picks later Dallas picked DeMarco Murray, RB, Oklahoma. If you compare Mouton to those taken around him he is a complete bust.
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Posted: 12/15/2012 10:04 AM

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Your same line of thinking would mean you would have called Butler a " bust" after he was hurt the first year.  You may very well be correct that he was a bad pick but give the guy a dam chance
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Posted: 12/15/2012 11:01 AM

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charger1joe wrote: Frankly, I'm shocked by the responses in this thread. You've all seen how much of Mouton to determine he isn't worth a hill of beans? At best his grade is an INC at this point leaning towards bust, but he's been hurt which obviously keeps him off the field. With his skillset he could be a dynamo STer and better ILB then Gachkar (who we've been forced to use too often of late).
Good point Joe. I have to admit I was at the Bengals game and Mouton looked pretty good when he was in there. His athleticism was apparent on a play where Dalton was flushed from the pocket. Mouton had him locked on his internal radar and Dalton knew it was wise to toss the ball away. Buster had lots of chances...English has had lots of oppertunities...Mouton needs some time in games for proper evaluation.
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Posted: 12/15/2012 11:31 AM

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I get that, and until he proves otherwise he's going to wear that reach/bust label. Only thing is though we haven't seen what he can really do yet. Remember all the fans who crapped on V-Jax while he was hurt his rookie year and called him a reach/bust? Let's not slam the door shut on him yet.
sfchargerfan wrote: blah, the problem is that he is another one of those panic reaches that AJ is famous for. He may indeed end up being a great special teams player but that will never justify his second round pick. The three biggest reaches I can think of are 1.Mouton 2.English 3. Hester.... It hasn't worked out with the other two and I don't expect it will with Mouton either
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Posted: 12/15/2012 11:33 AM

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If he develops into his skillset you'll see a more athletic/explosive Byrd/Gachkar hydrid.
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charger1joe wrote: Frankly, I'm shocked by the responses in this thread. You've all seen how much of Mouton to determine he isn't worth a hill of beans? At best his grade is an INC at this point leaning towards bust, but he's been hurt which obviously keeps him off the field. With his skillset he could be a dynamo STer and better ILB then Gachkar (who we've been forced to use too often of late).
Good point Joe. I have to admit I was at the Bengals game and Mouton looked pretty good when he was in there. His athleticism was apparent on a play where Dalton was flushed from the pocket. Mouton had him locked on his internal radar and Dalton knew it was wise to toss the ball away. Buster had lots of chances...English has had lots of oppertunities...Mouton needs some time in games for proper evaluation.
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Posted: 12/15/2012 11:49 AM

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Just one point to make.  Saying that Mouton is "done biding his time" implies that it's been his choice not to be on the field...

If here were a quality player, he'd have found his way onto the field earlier.
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