Hunter has been propping up Clary, Green and others when guys off the street play with more tenacity and do a better job protecting Rivers than we have seen for awhile.

As HC Norv needs opinions from his assistants and Hunter has been bagging him for years with Clary. Haslam has played better than Harris or Clary the last two games so it is not a one game wonder thing.

Haslam and Wells may not be the starters we need but they are better than the starters we had! Lets hope they are at least the back-ups next year.

LightEmUp1 wrote: Clary has been playing because AJ gave him a huge contract and has to save face. I'm sure Hunter is just being a good company man.

Hey, would you be a OLine coach for the Chargers if it meant you had to lie to yourself about a "game" every now and then?

fouts05 wrote: I disagree with this.  When it's obvious the line has what sucked for two years now - Hunter needed to be screaming in the draft war room.  Instead, he talks this offseason how us fans don't know what we're talking about and how Clary's great.  BS.  And Tyronne Greene is a bust too.  I just don't see how Hal Hunter shouldn't be the first one fired

LightEmUp1 wrote: Clary has been playing because AJ gave him a huge contract and has to save face. I'm sure Hunter is just being a good company man.

Hey, would you be a OLine coach for the Chargers if it meant you had to lie to yourself about a "game" every now and then?

LightEmUp1 wrote: So your saying its obvious the line sucks, but Hunter truly believes these guys are good?

How did he get an NFL gig in the first place if he is that bad?

fouts05 wrote: I disagree with this.  When it's obvious the line has what sucked for two years now - Hunter needed to be screaming in the draft war room.  Instead, he talks this offseason how us fans don't know what we're talking about and how Clary's great.  BS.  And Tyronne Greene is a bust too.  I just don't see how Hal Hunter shouldn't be the first one fired

LightEmUp1 wrote: Clary has been playing because AJ gave him a huge contract and has to save face. I'm sure Hunter is just being a good company man.

Hey, would you be a OLine coach for the Chargers if it meant you had to lie to yourself about a "game" every now and then?

LightEmUp1 wrote: So your saying its obvious the line sucks, but Hunter truly believes these guys are good?

How did he get an NFL gig in the first place if he is that bad?

fouts05 wrote: I disagree with this.  When it's obvious the line has what sucked for two years now - Hunter needed to be screaming in the draft war room.  Instead, he talks this offseason how us fans don't know what we're talking about and how Clary's great.  BS.  And Tyronne Greene is a bust too.  I just don't see how Hal Hunter shouldn't be the first one fired

LightEmUp1 wrote: Clary has been playing because AJ gave him a huge contract and has to save face. I'm sure Hunter is just being a good company man.

Hey, would you be a OLine coach for the Chargers if it meant you had to lie to yourself about a "game" every now and then?

LightEmUp1 wrote: Clary has been playing because AJ gave him a huge contract and has to save face. I'm sure Hunter is just being a good company man.

Hey, would you be a OLine coach for the Chargers if it meant you had to lie to yourself about a "game" every now and then?

LightEmUp1 wrote: Isnt stating Clary is a good RT also jeopardizing his coaching credentials?

Whats more believable?

He thinks Clary is good or is saying what he's told?

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: Isnt stating Clary is a good RT also jeopardizing his coaching credentials?

Whats more believable?

He thinks Clary is good or is saying what he's told?

Again, standing up for what is right is what the man "should" be doing.  Not toting the company line.  If the man's credentials are as strong as you would like to believe, he would have absolutely no issues finding another coaching gig elsewhere.  

Obviously it's more believable that he's toting the company line but that makes my point.  Why would someone that has the credentials lay down and lie for company that's so willing to lay their coaching staff under the bus as it has in the past?  Is he not confident that he can find another coaching gig?  Is he that much of a pushover that he's willing to tote the company line in order to hurt his own integrity?  

If job relies upon "lying" and telling everyone that Clary is a good player, then I'm sorry but I  personally would have walked.  That's just me.  

I believe Hal is a good coach but I'm not looking for a just a good coach.  I'm looking for a great coach.  One that's willing to stand on his own darn two feet and fight for quality players for him to coach.  His own jobs relies upon those players being successful.  Not lying to the media and the fans about how good/great Clary is when we all know the latter.

kelomar wrote:

Hunter has been propping up Clary, Green and others when guys off the street play with more tenacity and do a better job protecting Rivers than we have seen for awhile.

As HC Norv needs opinions from his assistants and Hunter has been bagging him for years with Clary. Haslam has played better than Harris or Clary the last two games so it is not a one game wonder thing.

Haslam and Wells may not be the starters we need but they are better than the starters we had! Lets hope they are at least the back-ups next year.

LightEmUp1 wrote: Because thats the way the league works. You dont "out" guys to the media or fans. Everyone "in" the league understands the internals and how employees are suppost to conduct themselves. You can still be a talented coach and back the company agenda. In fact, its required. Very few coaches, players, heck even beat writers now tell the exact truth. There is tons of money at stake here and being a yes man goes along with the job description.

If this was just about results and skills, why would we be wondering about a 5-8 coach who will miss the playoffs for the 3rd straight season?

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: Isnt stating Clary is a good RT also jeopardizing his coaching credentials?

Whats more believable?

He thinks Clary is good or is saying what he's told?

Again, standing up for what is right is what the man "should" be doing.  Not toting the company line.  If the man's credentials are as strong as you would like to believe, he would have absolutely no issues finding another coaching gig elsewhere.  

Obviously it's more believable that he's toting the company line but that makes my point.  Why would someone that has the credentials lay down and lie for company that's so willing to lay their coaching staff under the bus as it has in the past?  Is he not confident that he can find another coaching gig?  Is he that much of a pushover that he's willing to tote the company line in order to hurt his own integrity?  

If job relies upon "lying" and telling everyone that Clary is a good player, then I'm sorry but I  personally would have walked.  That's just me.  

I believe Hal is a good coach but I'm not looking for a just a good coach.  I'm looking for a great coach.  One that's willing to stand on his own darn two feet and fight for quality players for him to coach.  His own jobs relies upon those players being successful.  Not lying to the media and the fans about how good/great Clary is when we all know the latter.

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: Because thats the way the league works. You dont "out" guys to the media or fans. Everyone "in" the league understands the internals and how employees are suppost to conduct themselves. You can still be a talented coach and back the company agenda. In fact, its required. Very few coaches, players, heck even beat writers now tell the exact truth. There is tons of money at stake here and being a yes man goes along with the job description.

If this was just about results and skills, why would we be wondering about a 5-8 coach who will miss the playoffs for the 3rd straight season?

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: Isnt stating Clary is a good RT also jeopardizing his coaching credentials?

Whats more believable?

He thinks Clary is good or is saying what he's told?

Again, standing up for what is right is what the man "should" be doing.  Not toting the company line.  If the man's credentials are as strong as you would like to believe, he would have absolutely no issues finding another coaching gig elsewhere.  

Obviously it's more believable that he's toting the company line but that makes my point.  Why would someone that has the credentials lay down and lie for company that's so willing to lay their coaching staff under the bus as it has in the past?  Is he not confident that he can find another coaching gig?  Is he that much of a pushover that he's willing to tote the company line in order to hurt his own integrity?  

If job relies upon "lying" and telling everyone that Clary is a good player, then I'm sorry but I  personally would have walked.  That's just me.  

I believe Hal is a good coach but I'm not looking for a just a good coach.  I'm looking for a great coach.  One that's willing to stand on his own darn two feet and fight for quality players for him to coach.  His own jobs relies upon those players being successful.  Not lying to the media and the fans about how good/great Clary is when we all know the latter.

Who said anything about outing Clary?  I know all about PR when it comes to football and I know all about the code of conduct as far as not laying out your dirty laundry.  

But to sit there and a make it a point to say that Clary is a good player?  Really?  There was no need for any of that.  He made it a point to say that about Clary.  Mums the word would have been just as sufficient would it not?

LightEmUp1 wrote: No, it wouldnt be.

He was asked in an interview. He responded the way the brand wanted him to. Right or wrong, thats what the team and league wants him to do. You do what your told.

Other coaches, players and insiders knew what he was doing when he did it. Only certain fans took his words at face value.

How long do you think he lasts here if he answers the interview question that Clary isnt that good? - A subject many fans were bringing up as an example that AJ pays the wrong people. This was hot during the VJ debate. He had to say what he did.

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: Because thats the way the league works. You dont "out" guys to the media or fans. Everyone "in" the league understands the internals and how employees are suppost to conduct themselves. You can still be a talented coach and back the company agenda. In fact, its required. Very few coaches, players, heck even beat writers now tell the exact truth. There is tons of money at stake here and being a yes man goes along with the job description.

If this was just about results and skills, why would we be wondering about a 5-8 coach who will miss the playoffs for the 3rd straight season?

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: Isnt stating Clary is a good RT also jeopardizing his coaching credentials?

Whats more believable?

He thinks Clary is good or is saying what he's told?

Again, standing up for what is right is what the man "should" be doing.  Not toting the company line.  If the man's credentials are as strong as you would like to believe, he would have absolutely no issues finding another coaching gig elsewhere.  

Obviously it's more believable that he's toting the company line but that makes my point.  Why would someone that has the credentials lay down and lie for company that's so willing to lay their coaching staff under the bus as it has in the past?  Is he not confident that he can find another coaching gig?  Is he that much of a pushover that he's willing to tote the company line in order to hurt his own integrity?  

If job relies upon "lying" and telling everyone that Clary is a good player, then I'm sorry but I  personally would have walked.  That's just me.  

I believe Hal is a good coach but I'm not looking for a just a good coach.  I'm looking for a great coach.  One that's willing to stand on his own darn two feet and fight for quality players for him to coach.  His own jobs relies upon those players being successful.  Not lying to the media and the fans about how good/great Clary is when we all know the latter.

Who said anything about outing Clary?  I know all about PR when it comes to football and I know all about the code of conduct as far as not laying out your dirty laundry.  

But to sit there and a make it a point to say that Clary is a good player?  Really?  There was no need for any of that.  He made it a point to say that about Clary.  Mums the word would have been just as sufficient would it not?

Thisfrickinguy wrote: Say's Rex Ryan. 

LightEmUp1 wrote: No, it wouldnt be.

He was asked in an interview. He responded the way the brand wanted him to. Right or wrong, thats what the team and league wants him to do. You do what your told.

Other coaches, players and insiders knew what he was doing when he did it. Only certain fans took his words at face value.

How long do you think he lasts here if he answers the interview question that Clary isnt that good? - A subject many fans were bringing up as an example that AJ pays the wrong people. This was hot during the VJ debate. He had to say what he did.

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: Because thats the way the league works. You dont "out" guys to the media or fans. Everyone "in" the league understands the internals and how employees are suppost to conduct themselves. You can still be a talented coach and back the company agenda. In fact, its required. Very few coaches, players, heck even beat writers now tell the exact truth. There is tons of money at stake here and being a yes man goes along with the job description.

If this was just about results and skills, why would we be wondering about a 5-8 coach who will miss the playoffs for the 3rd straight season?

Thisfrickinguy wrote:

LightEmUp1 wrote: Isnt stating Clary is a good RT also jeopardizing his coaching credentials?

Whats more believable?

He thinks Clary is good or is saying what he's told?

Again, standing up for what is right is what the man "should" be doing.  Not toting the company line.  If the man's credentials are as strong as you would like to believe, he would have absolutely no issues finding another coaching gig elsewhere.  

Obviously it's more believable that he's toting the company line but that makes my point.  Why would someone that has the credentials lay down and lie for company that's so willing to lay their coaching staff under the bus as it has in the past?  Is he not confident that he can find another coaching gig?  Is he that much of a pushover that he's willing to tote the company line in order to hurt his own integrity?  

If job relies upon "lying" and telling everyone that Clary is a good player, then I'm sorry but I  personally would have walked.  That's just me.  

I believe Hal is a good coach but I'm not looking for a just a good coach.  I'm looking for a great coach.  One that's willing to stand on his own darn two feet and fight for quality players for him to coach.  His own jobs relies upon those players being successful.  Not lying to the media and the fans about how good/great Clary is when we all know the latter.

Who said anything about outing Clary?  I know all about PR when it comes to football and I know all about the code of conduct as far as not laying out your dirty laundry.  

But to sit there and a make it a point to say that Clary is a good player?  Really?  There was no need for any of that.  He made it a point to say that about Clary.  Mums the word would have been just as sufficient would it not?

LightEmUp1 wrote:  

How long do you think he lasts here if he answers the interview question that Clary isnt that good? - A subject many fans were bringing up as an example that AJ pays the wrong people. This was hot during the VJ debate. He had to say what he did.

 

LightEmUp1 wrote: Hal Hunter is supposed to act like Rex Ryan?

Thisfrickinguy wrote: Say's Rex Ryan.