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Posted: 11/20/2012 7:28 PM

WR position 


Does anyone think that our WR position will look any different next year from this year, and does anyone feel that it should?

I kind of feel like we have a bunch of #2s but no real true #1 with Floyd being the closest thing to that.

Floyd - Our best WR for now when healthy (I expect VBrown to take over that title in a season or two)

Brown - See above
Meachem - Too much guaranteed to cut until after next season.
Royal - Our best kick returner and I think deserves one more season to prove whether or not he can stay healthy
Alexander - Appears to be a hidden gem

We won't carry more than 5 WR so who, if anyone, would you cut and justify it in the case of Meachem and Royal $$$

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Posted: 11/20/2012 7:29 PM

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I should also mention that while I'm not necessarily happy with that group of WRs, I think we could do a lot worse if we could ever keep PR upright and give him some time in the pocket.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 8:32 PM

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I would wait to see who our next HC or OC is before getting rid of anyone. Eddie Royal for example never had a chance in this system, as I said many times the day we signed him he's just a bad fit for Norv. But I do believe he is a very valuable receiver if a guy like Kyle Shanahan, Tom Clements or (lord willing) Sean Payton were hired.

Meachem...I'm having a really hard time believing in him at all after watching Alexander step in and do his job. But as you mentioned its expensive to cut him, the only advantage to cutting him in 2013 is in 2014 all that dead money will be gone.  It would be awesome if we could trade him, but he has no value.

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Posted: 11/20/2012 8:48 PM

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Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
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Posted: 11/20/2012 9:14 PM

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Yes there is no true #1 but I believe this group will be just fine once they build a wall in front of Rivers. Once that wall is built not only will Rivers be back to normal but the running game will improve as well.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 10:06 PM

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I am comfortable with our WR core and though we dont have a dominant #1 we have three guys that are solid WR2s with Floyd, ALexander and VB.  I doubt there will be a WR 1 as a Free agent and we need to use the first three picks for the Oline and corner next year.  Protect Rivers and he can find all of these guys.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 10:33 PM

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SoCalThrilla wrote:

Does anyone think that our WR position will look any different next year from this year, and does anyone feel that it should?

I kind of feel like we have a bunch of #2s but no real true #1 with Floyd being the closest thing to that.

Floyd - Our best WR for now when healthy (I expect VBrown to take over that title in a season or two)

Brown - See above
Meachem - Too much guaranteed to cut until after next season.
Royal - Our best kick returner and I think deserves one more season to prove whether or not he can stay healthy
Alexander - Appears to be a hidden gem

We won't carry more than 5 WR so who, if anyone, would you cut and justify it in the case of Meachem and Royal $$$


It will look different but not thta much.    I remember telling the board when Meacham was acquired that he was not a #1 WR'.   Some of you argued endlessly that he was... the jury is no longer deliberating on that one. 

As a group there is enough talent to win with so I dont expect significant FA signings or high draft picks to be spent.    What we need more is a line to block for Philip and a better scheme to take advantage of the talents we have.   Don't forget Ladarius Green a high draft choice developing behind Gates.  Dante Rosario is another weapon under utilized.

Vincent Brown will soon assert himself back into the lineup.   He is key because outside of Floyd he is one of the few players we can count on to catch the ball consistently.  Rivers trusts him and he will make Denario Alexander that much more dangerous when corners and safeties have to account for him.

Meacham is not earning his salary .  Unless that changes he hits the road in my opinion.
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Posted: 11/20/2012 11:38 PM

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+1. 

I think we have to roll with what we have and hope things change with a (hopefully) improved oline. 

-- We're stuck with Meachem.
-- We're stuck with Royal
-- We can't cut Alexander when he's performing so well (unless he gets injured again)
-- We can't cut Brown. He's looked too good, though I believe some of us put too much stock in a limited sample size.
-- We know what we have in Floyd, but more importantly Rivers knows what he has in Floyd. Take away Floyd after this year and Rivers has ZERO wide receivers that he's had on the field for more than one season. 

I'm not excited by that group, and I don't believe it incites fear in any secondaries. But I can't see how it can be changed.noidea
SoCalThrilla wrote:

Does anyone think that our WR position will look any different next year from this year, and does anyone feel that it should?

I kind of feel like we have a bunch of #2s but no real true #1 with Floyd being the closest thing to that.

Floyd - Our best WR for now when healthy (I expect VBrown to take over that title in a season or two)

Brown - See above
Meachem - Too much guaranteed to cut until after next season.
Royal - Our best kick returner and I think deserves one more season to prove whether or not he can stay healthy
Alexander - Appears to be a hidden gem

We won't carry more than 5 WR so who, if anyone, would you cut and justify it in the case of Meachem and Royal $$$

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Posted: 11/20/2012 11:41 PM

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We obviously have bigger needs but I would really like to see us add a possession type with some YAC skills. The way the league is now I think guys in that mold like Harvin, Cruz, Welker, Amendola, Cobb...etc. are invaluable. If we could somehow fix the OL and add a CB or two between free agency and the first few rounds of the draft I wouldn't mind seeing us try to add a guy in that mold in the middle rounds. Maybe Austin or Bailey out of West Virginia to replace Royal.
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Posted: 11/21/2012 9:13 AM

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I see your laying low. cool

"Thats a fine corps right thurr" - Interesting take.

Lets dig in deeper.

Malcom Floyd - 639 yards with 3TD's. - Currently ranked 22nd in the league. Ok, not bad, but obviously not a true #1 receiver, which we've known for a while now and already tried.

Robert Meacherm - 207 yards with 2TD's - Currently ranked 139th in the league behind guys like Armon Binns, Logan Paulsen and Ramsen Parden. If your happy with Robert Meachem I think we could have had Binns, Paulsen and Parden much cheaper and addressed other needs on the team with that 14mill guaranteed he got.

Eddie Royal - 134 yards with 1TD - Currently ranked 185th in the league and I wont bother telling you the names he is behind. What could we have done with his 6mill guaranteed? Maybe OLine?


Your defenition of "fine receiving corps" isnt the same as mine.


Oh, Vincent Jackson - 863 yards receiving with 7TD's. Currently ranked 9th in the league.

Only in SD can you let go of the 9th ranked WR in the league, replace him with the 139th and 185th and call that a fine move.



kiwibolt wrote: Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:03 AM

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Malcom Floyd, and Denario Alexander each have as many TD's as  Fitz, Andre and Calvin Johnson, and Steve Smith...

A " true"#1 reciever doesnt equal wins... Look at how many wins Carolina and Arizona and Detroit have.... Only the Texans have a good record, and even then they have a complete team, not just a #1 reciever....

Did we need VJ in 2010?

We have a good OL, this corps is more than adequate.....
LightEmUp1 wrote: I see your laying low. cool

"Thats a fine corps right thurr" - Interesting take.

Lets dig in deeper.

Malcom Floyd - 639 yards with 3TD's. - Currently ranked 22nd in the league. Ok, not bad, but obviously not a true #1 receiver, which we've known for a while now and already tried.

Robert Meacherm - 207 yards with 2TD's - Currently ranked 139th in the league behind guys like Armon Binns, Logan Paulsen and Ramsen Parden. If your happy with Robert Meachem I think we could have had Binns, Paulsen and Parden much cheaper and addressed other needs on the team with that 14mill guaranteed he got.

Eddie Royal - 134 yards with 1TD - Currently ranked 185th in the league and I wont bother telling you the names he is behind. What could we have done with his 6mill guaranteed? Maybe OLine?


Your defenition of "fine receiving corps" isnt the same as mine.


Oh, Vincent Jackson - 863 yards receiving with 7TD's. Currently ranked 9th in the league.

Only in SD can you let go of the 9th ranked WR in the league, replace him with the 139th and 185th and call that a fine move.



kiwibolt wrote: Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:55 AM

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So your fine with having the 139th and 185th ranked WR's as our "core"?

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Posted: 11/21/2012 12:49 PM

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A lot of this has to do with our offensive line.  In 2010 without VJ Rivers had a decent year when McNeil and Deilman were here.  Not saying I don't miss VJ - but receiver just isn't a position we can afford to improve this offseason.

LightEmUp1 wrote: So your fine with having the 139th and 185th ranked WR's as our "core"?

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Posted: 11/21/2012 2:21 PM

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Disagree on this one.

Elite WR talent on its own does not ensure a good record. Elite talent at any single position does not guarantee a winning record. Detroit has a bad record with Megatron. They also had bad records with Barry Sanders. 

What would Detroit's record be if they had Malcom Floyd instead of Megatron? 

What would our record be if we had VJ instead of Meachem/Royal? 

Even when Rivers does have time, our passing game is not nearly as good as it used to be.

Look at how  much Gates has regressed with us having a bunch of No. 2s and No. 3s on the field. Is there causation there? I believe there's a little at least. VJ drew a lot of double coverage. 

Last year we were ranked 6th in yards and 5th in points and Clary started every game. This year we're 23rd and 16th respectively. And points translate directly into W-L. Sure, we had Dielman/Gaither at LT, but are you going to put that kind of offensive regression completely on LT?  
GoBolts17 wrote: Malcom Floyd, and Denario Alexander each have as many TD's as  Fitz, Andre and Calvin Johnson, and Steve Smith...

A " true"#1 reciever doesnt equal wins... Look at how many wins Carolina and Arizona and Detroit have.... Only the Texans have a good record, and even then they have a complete team, not just a #1 reciever....

Did we need VJ in 2010?

We have a good OL, this corps is more than adequate.....
LightEmUp1 wrote: I see your laying low. cool

"Thats a fine corps right thurr" - Interesting take.

Lets dig in deeper.

Malcom Floyd - 639 yards with 3TD's. - Currently ranked 22nd in the league. Ok, not bad, but obviously not a true #1 receiver, which we've known for a while now and already tried.

Robert Meacherm - 207 yards with 2TD's - Currently ranked 139th in the league behind guys like Armon Binns, Logan Paulsen and Ramsen Parden. If your happy with Robert Meachem I think we could have had Binns, Paulsen and Parden much cheaper and addressed other needs on the team with that 14mill guaranteed he got.

Eddie Royal - 134 yards with 1TD - Currently ranked 185th in the league and I wont bother telling you the names he is behind. What could we have done with his 6mill guaranteed? Maybe OLine?


Your defenition of "fine receiving corps" isnt the same as mine.


Oh, Vincent Jackson - 863 yards receiving with 7TD's. Currently ranked 9th in the league.

Only in SD can you let go of the 9th ranked WR in the league, replace him with the 139th and 185th and call that a fine move.



kiwibolt wrote: Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
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Posted: 11/21/2012 3:01 PM

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We dont have a true number 1 reciever...Tampa Bay does... You take away Rivers stupid boneheaded pick six, and we and Tampa have the same record....5-5.... so letting VJ walk didnt really hurt us, and while he may have a little bit better stats than Floyd, I would say the real reason the Bucs have the record they do now, is because of a stud rookie RB.....Also, something that helps with VJ's numbers, the actual threat of a running game, something we dont have.....
HunterSTomlinson wrote: Disagree on this one.

Elite WR talent on its own does not ensure a good record. Elite talent at any single position does not guarantee a winning record. Detroit has a bad record with Megatron. They also had bad records with Barry Sanders. 

What would Detroit's record be if they had Malcom Floyd instead of Megatron? 

What would our record be if we had VJ instead of Meachem/Royal? 

Even when Rivers does have time, our passing game is not nearly as good as it used to be.

Look at how  much Gates has regressed with us having a bunch of No. 2s and No. 3s on the field. Is there causation there? I believe there's a little at least. VJ drew a lot of double coverage. 

Last year we were ranked 6th in yards and 5th in points and Clary started every game. This year we're 23rd and 16th respectively. And points translate directly into W-L. Sure, we had Dielman/Gaither at LT, but are you going to put that kind of offensive regression completely on LT?  
GoBolts17 wrote: Malcom Floyd, and Denario Alexander each have as many TD's as  Fitz, Andre and Calvin Johnson, and Steve Smith...

A " true"#1 reciever doesnt equal wins... Look at how many wins Carolina and Arizona and Detroit have.... Only the Texans have a good record, and even then they have a complete team, not just a #1 reciever....

Did we need VJ in 2010?

We have a good OL, this corps is more than adequate.....
LightEmUp1 wrote: I see your laying low. cool

"Thats a fine corps right thurr" - Interesting take.

Lets dig in deeper.

Malcom Floyd - 639 yards with 3TD's. - Currently ranked 22nd in the league. Ok, not bad, but obviously not a true #1 receiver, which we've known for a while now and already tried.

Robert Meacherm - 207 yards with 2TD's - Currently ranked 139th in the league behind guys like Armon Binns, Logan Paulsen and Ramsen Parden. If your happy with Robert Meachem I think we could have had Binns, Paulsen and Parden much cheaper and addressed other needs on the team with that 14mill guaranteed he got.

Eddie Royal - 134 yards with 1TD - Currently ranked 185th in the league and I wont bother telling you the names he is behind. What could we have done with his 6mill guaranteed? Maybe OLine?


Your defenition of "fine receiving corps" isnt the same as mine.


Oh, Vincent Jackson - 863 yards receiving with 7TD's. Currently ranked 9th in the league.

Only in SD can you let go of the 9th ranked WR in the league, replace him with the 139th and 185th and call that a fine move.



kiwibolt wrote: Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
"Strap on the Bolo Tie and then let the ball fly!"
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Posted: 11/21/2012 3:04 PM

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Why didnt the FO just sign 2 no names then? Why did they go out and spend 20mill guaranteed on Meach and Royal when by your justification we could have just signed 2 no name scrubs and been just as productive?

Apparently the FO doesnt share your 2010 theory.


fouts05 wrote: A lot of this has to do with our offensive line.  In 2010 without VJ Rivers had a decent year when McNeil and Deilman were here.  Not saying I don't miss VJ - but receiver just isn't a position we can afford to improve this offseason.

LightEmUp1 wrote: So your fine with having the 139th and 185th ranked WR's as our "core"?

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Posted: 11/21/2012 3:08 PM

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Do you look at stats before you make comments like this?

MF - 639 yards, 3 TD's
VJ - 836 yards, 7 TD's

He has twice as many TD's, and over 20 yards more per game and he has to share touches with Mike Williams. Royal and Meach arent taking anything away from Floyd.


GoBolts17 wrote: We dont have a true number 1 reciever...Tampa Bay does... You take away Rivers stupid boneheaded pick six, and we and Tampa have the same record....5-5.... so letting VJ walk didnt really hurt us, and while he may have a little bit better stats than Floyd, I would say the real reason the Bucs have the record they do now, is because of a stud rookie RB.....Also, something that helps with VJ's numbers, the actual threat of a running game, something we dont have.....
HunterSTomlinson wrote: Disagree on this one.

Elite WR talent on its own does not ensure a good record. Elite talent at any single position does not guarantee a winning record. Detroit has a bad record with Megatron. They also had bad records with Barry Sanders. 

What would Detroit's record be if they had Malcom Floyd instead of Megatron? 

What would our record be if we had VJ instead of Meachem/Royal? 

Even when Rivers does have time, our passing game is not nearly as good as it used to be.

Look at how  much Gates has regressed with us having a bunch of No. 2s and No. 3s on the field. Is there causation there? I believe there's a little at least. VJ drew a lot of double coverage. 

Last year we were ranked 6th in yards and 5th in points and Clary started every game. This year we're 23rd and 16th respectively. And points translate directly into W-L. Sure, we had Dielman/Gaither at LT, but are you going to put that kind of offensive regression completely on LT?  
GoBolts17 wrote: Malcom Floyd, and Denario Alexander each have as many TD's as  Fitz, Andre and Calvin Johnson, and Steve Smith...

A " true"#1 reciever doesnt equal wins... Look at how many wins Carolina and Arizona and Detroit have.... Only the Texans have a good record, and even then they have a complete team, not just a #1 reciever....

Did we need VJ in 2010?

We have a good OL, this corps is more than adequate.....
LightEmUp1 wrote: I see your laying low. cool

"Thats a fine corps right thurr" - Interesting take.

Lets dig in deeper.

Malcom Floyd - 639 yards with 3TD's. - Currently ranked 22nd in the league. Ok, not bad, but obviously not a true #1 receiver, which we've known for a while now and already tried.

Robert Meacherm - 207 yards with 2TD's - Currently ranked 139th in the league behind guys like Armon Binns, Logan Paulsen and Ramsen Parden. If your happy with Robert Meachem I think we could have had Binns, Paulsen and Parden much cheaper and addressed other needs on the team with that 14mill guaranteed he got.

Eddie Royal - 134 yards with 1TD - Currently ranked 185th in the league and I wont bother telling you the names he is behind. What could we have done with his 6mill guaranteed? Maybe OLine?


Your defenition of "fine receiving corps" isnt the same as mine.


Oh, Vincent Jackson - 863 yards receiving with 7TD's. Currently ranked 9th in the league.

Only in SD can you let go of the 9th ranked WR in the league, replace him with the 139th and 185th and call that a fine move.



kiwibolt wrote: Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
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Posted: 11/21/2012 3:13 PM

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As a mater of fact I do....
197 yds spread over 10 games is a little better.....4 more Td's over 10 games, is a little better....
and yes, Royal and meach arent taking anything away from Floyd, but our RB's are, because Rivers has no time to do anything......
LightEmUp1 wrote: Do you look at stats before you make comments like this?

MF - 639 yards, 3 TD's
VJ - 836 yards, 7 TD's

He has twice as many TD's, and over 20 yards more per game and he has to share touches with Mike Williams. Royal and Meach arent taking anything away from Floyd.


GoBolts17 wrote: We dont have a true number 1 reciever...Tampa Bay does... You take away Rivers stupid boneheaded pick six, and we and Tampa have the same record....5-5.... so letting VJ walk didnt really hurt us, and while he may have a little bit better stats than Floyd, I would say the real reason the Bucs have the record they do now, is because of a stud rookie RB.....Also, something that helps with VJ's numbers, the actual threat of a running game, something we dont have.....
HunterSTomlinson wrote: Disagree on this one.

Elite WR talent on its own does not ensure a good record. Elite talent at any single position does not guarantee a winning record. Detroit has a bad record with Megatron. They also had bad records with Barry Sanders. 

What would Detroit's record be if they had Malcom Floyd instead of Megatron? 

What would our record be if we had VJ instead of Meachem/Royal? 

Even when Rivers does have time, our passing game is not nearly as good as it used to be.

Look at how  much Gates has regressed with us having a bunch of No. 2s and No. 3s on the field. Is there causation there? I believe there's a little at least. VJ drew a lot of double coverage. 

Last year we were ranked 6th in yards and 5th in points and Clary started every game. This year we're 23rd and 16th respectively. And points translate directly into W-L. Sure, we had Dielman/Gaither at LT, but are you going to put that kind of offensive regression completely on LT?  
GoBolts17 wrote: Malcom Floyd, and Denario Alexander each have as many TD's as  Fitz, Andre and Calvin Johnson, and Steve Smith...

A " true"#1 reciever doesnt equal wins... Look at how many wins Carolina and Arizona and Detroit have.... Only the Texans have a good record, and even then they have a complete team, not just a #1 reciever....

Did we need VJ in 2010?

We have a good OL, this corps is more than adequate.....
LightEmUp1 wrote: I see your laying low. cool

"Thats a fine corps right thurr" - Interesting take.

Lets dig in deeper.

Malcom Floyd - 639 yards with 3TD's. - Currently ranked 22nd in the league. Ok, not bad, but obviously not a true #1 receiver, which we've known for a while now and already tried.

Robert Meacherm - 207 yards with 2TD's - Currently ranked 139th in the league behind guys like Armon Binns, Logan Paulsen and Ramsen Parden. If your happy with Robert Meachem I think we could have had Binns, Paulsen and Parden much cheaper and addressed other needs on the team with that 14mill guaranteed he got.

Eddie Royal - 134 yards with 1TD - Currently ranked 185th in the league and I wont bother telling you the names he is behind. What could we have done with his 6mill guaranteed? Maybe OLine?


Your defenition of "fine receiving corps" isnt the same as mine.


Oh, Vincent Jackson - 863 yards receiving with 7TD's. Currently ranked 9th in the league.

Only in SD can you let go of the 9th ranked WR in the league, replace him with the 139th and 185th and call that a fine move.



kiwibolt wrote: Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
"Strap on the Bolo Tie and then let the ball fly!"
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Posted: 11/21/2012 3:19 PM

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i dont give a rats azz about VJ Light

nothing wrong with our WRS, like i said ALL YEAR its not their fault their QB cant hit them when theyre open in or heading towards the endzone

theres a reason why Rivers has 43 turnovers in 26 games, because his heads not in the game...

honestly WHO THE F HAS 43 TURNOVERS IN 26 GAMES!!!

LightEmUp1 wrote: I see your laying low. cool

"Thats a fine corps right thurr" - Interesting take.

Lets dig in deeper.

Malcom Floyd - 639 yards with 3TD's. - Currently ranked 22nd in the league. Ok, not bad, but obviously not a true #1 receiver, which we've known for a while now and already tried.

Robert Meacherm - 207 yards with 2TD's - Currently ranked 139th in the league behind guys like Armon Binns, Logan Paulsen and Ramsen Parden. If your happy with Robert Meachem I think we could have had Binns, Paulsen and Parden much cheaper and addressed other needs on the team with that 14mill guaranteed he got.

Eddie Royal - 134 yards with 1TD - Currently ranked 185th in the league and I wont bother telling you the names he is behind. What could we have done with his 6mill guaranteed? Maybe OLine?


Your defenition of "fine receiving corps" isnt the same as mine.


Oh, Vincent Jackson - 863 yards receiving with 7TD's. Currently ranked 9th in the league.

Only in SD can you let go of the 9th ranked WR in the league, replace him with the 139th and 185th and call that a fine move.



kiwibolt wrote: Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
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Posted: 11/21/2012 3:22 PM

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They will dismiss this, Kiwi, they will say something like, " VJ would go get those underthrown or inaccurate passes"

Meanwhile, Tampa has a running game, and a scheme that fits their personnel, and a QB who doesnt have to dump off to RB's every other play.....
kiwibolt wrote: i dont give a rats azz about VJ Light

nothing wrong with our WRS, like i said ALL YEAR its not their fault their QB cant hit them when theyre open in or heading towards the endzone

theres a reason why Rivers has 43 turnovers in 26 games, because his heads not in the game...

honestly WHO THE F HAS 43 TURNOVERS IN 26 GAMES!!!

LightEmUp1 wrote: I see your laying low. cool

"Thats a fine corps right thurr" - Interesting take.

Lets dig in deeper.

Malcom Floyd - 639 yards with 3TD's. - Currently ranked 22nd in the league. Ok, not bad, but obviously not a true #1 receiver, which we've known for a while now and already tried.

Robert Meacherm - 207 yards with 2TD's - Currently ranked 139th in the league behind guys like Armon Binns, Logan Paulsen and Ramsen Parden. If your happy with Robert Meachem I think we could have had Binns, Paulsen and Parden much cheaper and addressed other needs on the team with that 14mill guaranteed he got.

Eddie Royal - 134 yards with 1TD - Currently ranked 185th in the league and I wont bother telling you the names he is behind. What could we have done with his 6mill guaranteed? Maybe OLine?


Your defenition of "fine receiving corps" isnt the same as mine.


Oh, Vincent Jackson - 863 yards receiving with 7TD's. Currently ranked 9th in the league.

Only in SD can you let go of the 9th ranked WR in the league, replace him with the 139th and 185th and call that a fine move.



kiwibolt wrote: Floyd, Royal, Brown, Meacham, Alexander

thats a fine crop of WRS right thurr
"Strap on the Bolo Tie and then let the ball fly!"
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