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Posted: 8/30/2014 9:20 PM

FWIW 


Malzahn said that he thought we were improved and would win quite a few games

Coach said that we played 2 quarters we could live with and 2 quarters that we could not.
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Posted: 8/30/2014 9:27 PM

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Good to know.

I also wonder, though, if Chaney called two quarters we can live with but two we could not . . . 

Also wonder if Robb Smith is thinking, "Wow, I'm in a war and got no ammo." 

broeric wrote: Malzahn said that he thought we were improved and would win quite a few games

Coach said that we played 2 quarters we could live with and 2 quarters that we could not.
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Posted: 8/30/2014 9:29 PM

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Screw Gus!

 I could not care less about what he thinks of the U of A, his usage of same, nor hope for his season except where it may sink with the depth of his integrity.

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard,” H. L. Mencken

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Posted: 8/30/2014 9:29 PM

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No, Robb said, "crap, I'm not in the Big East anymore".
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Posted: 8/30/2014 9:33 PM

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You blame Gus?

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Screw Gus!

 I could not care less about what he thinks of the U of A, his usage of same, nor hope for his season except where it may sink with the depth of his integrity.

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Posted: 8/30/2014 9:34 PM

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FoxMan2099 wrote: Good to know.

I also wonder, though, if Chaney called two quarters we can live with but two we could not . . . 

Also wonder if Robb Smith is thinking, "Wow, I'm in a war and got no ammo." 


Yep.  Young guys who are not big enough, yet.  We'll get there.
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Posted: 8/30/2014 11:05 PM

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Well we lost to the only Big East team we've played lately . . . 

And Smith has been in the NFL, so the SEC isn't some new level of intensity he's never been a part of before. 

irunalot wrote: No, Robb said, "crap, I'm not in the Big East anymore".
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Posted: 8/30/2014 11:11 PM

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I would rather go 0-12 that say anything nice about Gus.  I don't think he will ever coach the Hogs, but if he does, I predict we will not reach the heights to which folks aspire.

Fake injuries, broken elevators, but a good Xstian man.  My backside
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hogfanwalkin wrote:
You blame Gus?

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--- firestroud wrote:

Screw Gus!

 I could not care less about what he thinks of the U of A, his usage of same, nor hope for his season except where it may sink with the depth of his integrity.

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This boy is Ignorance and this girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”  - Charles Dickens
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Posted: 8/31/2014 12:09 AM

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A wolf in sheep clothing = Gus
NostraHOGus wrote: I would rather go 0-12 that say anything nice about Gus.  I don't think he will ever coach the Hogs, but if he does, I predict we will not reach the heights to which folks aspire.

Fake injuries, broken elevators, but a good Xstian man.  My backside
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hogfanwalkin wrote:
You blame Gus?

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Screw Gus!

 I could not care less about what he thinks of the U of A, his usage of same, nor hope for his season except where it may sink with the depth of his integrity.

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Go Hogs Go!

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Posted: 8/31/2014 12:48 AM

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If Gus was such a great coach, Tulsa would be a power house now playing for NC's. with him still coaching there.
That's what great coaches do, bring a program up from scratch. Not use them as a stepping stone to get to the program that already has athletes, tradition, resources, boosters, facilities, etc. Auburn had won SEC championships long before Gus arrived there. At least CBB is trying to do a 1st here at AR.
What Spurrier has done at SC is what great coaches do.

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Posted: 8/31/2014 7:55 AM

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Oh gee. That gives us hope knowing that Gus thinks we're better. Oh wait. He's a creep and we don't give a feculant frogs behind what he thinks. Go fix the scoreboard and the elevator.

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.

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Posted: 8/31/2014 8:40 AM

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I don't like the way Gus chews his gum.  mad






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Posted: 8/31/2014 9:26 AM

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you do not know what you are talking about.  in gus's 2 years there, Tulsa was #1 nationally and #2 nationally in total offense.
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Posted: 8/31/2014 9:44 AM

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Serious question.......why is there so much angst here against Gus from an integrity standpoint? To me, he comes across as the ultimate straight shooter and his record as OC and HC at 4 universities is as good as it gets. I know there was turmoil at Arky in the year he was Nutt's OC but my gosh, y'all won the West that year and went to Atlanta.

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Posted: 8/31/2014 9:50 AM

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Because he's the reason AR is in the position we are in. When the "turmoil" you mentioned happened Gus was just as involved as HDN and several parents. So it divided the fanbase. You have people who think he was right, you have people who think he was wrong, and you have people (like me) that realize all of them were to blame. Gus can rot at AUB as far as I'm concerned. Trust me, first time AUB faces a little adversity he will point fingers at everyone at the university but him, and he will point another finger at your fanbase.


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Serious question.......why is there so much angst here against Gus from an integrity standpoint? To me, he comes across as the ultimate straight shooter and his record as OC and HC at 4 universities is as good as it gets. I know there was turmoil at Arky in the year he was Nutt's OC but my gosh, y'all won the West that year and went to Atlanta.

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Posted: 8/31/2014 10:07 AM

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Chizik tried to bridle Gus and he left. Auburn fans blamed Chizik and when he failed without CGM, Auburn quickly brought Gus back. I got the impression that the scenario at Arky was similar but Gus was considered too divisive to bring back? What did he do there to get such a reaction from the fans?
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Because he's the reason AR is in the position we are in. When the "turmoil" you mentioned happened Gus was just as involved as HDN and several parents. So it divided the fanbase. You have people who think he was right, you have people who think he was wrong, and you have people (like me) that realize all of them were to blame. Gus can rot at AUB as far as I'm concerned. Trust me, first time AUB faces a little adversity he will point fingers at everyone at the university but him, and he will point another finger at your fanbase.


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Serious question.......why is there so much angst here against Gus from an integrity standpoint? To me, he comes across as the ultimate straight shooter and his record as OC and HC at 4 universities is as good as it gets. I know there was turmoil at Arky in the year he was Nutt's OC but my gosh, y'all won the West that year and went to Atlanta.

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Posted: 8/31/2014 10:19 AM

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There are some in Arkansas, can't really say the percentage but I'd guess at least 15-20 %  that seem to love Gus more than they love the Razorbacks. Befuddling if you ask me. I think that adds fuel to the fire as the fanbase has been split since 2006. (Exception was the  two good CBP years) But even then there was a lot wrangling over the HDN/Malzahn issue.

But some believe he either undermined HDN while here, OR he used his high school players to parlay a gig in the college ranks. I don't necessarily subscribe to neither. But either could be true. I don't know.

What's ironic about the whole thing, is the national media laughed and yukked it up when Arkansas hired him. Now he's a media darling. I think that sticks with Arkansans as we usually feel mistreated by the national media.

I think it is a remarkable combination of events over the last 8 years that have left many fans feeling that we missed out on something special. That a homegrown high school coach could have made his name in his home state. That the success that Gus has had could've been in Fayetteville.

That and the fact that a certain winning coach here wrecked his motorcycle, embarrased our program, and while we sank to the depths of football hell Gus has risen to the top at a conference foe.

I personally wish the Gus lovers would get the fact that Gus is now an Auburn man. He will never coach in Fayetteville. That ship has sailed.  And it would be nice as well if the Gus haters would leave the issue alone. Put it to bed and move on.


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AUsoul wrote: Serious question.......why is there so much angst here against Gus from an integrity standpoint? To me, he comes across as the ultimate straight shooter and his record as OC and HC at 4 universities is as good as it gets. I know there was turmoil at Arky in the year he was Nutt's OC but my gosh, y'all won the West that year and went to Atlanta.


When I was young I informed my dad that when I grew up I wanted to be a musician. Dad told me " Son you can't do both"

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Posted: 8/31/2014 11:09 AM

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a very sensible and well thought-out post, hawgin TN.

I also recall that a lot of Arkansas fans were outspokenly against the idea of trying to acquire Tuberville when the opportunity presented itself ... and he was another Arkansas homegrown talent.  Is that a coincidence or do folks just rebel once someone has left the fold?
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Posted: 8/31/2014 12:22 PM

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Couple that with the fact that we didn't hire Jimmy Johnson in the eighties before he became a household name and you can see why there is a lot of wrangling in the fan base. JJ wanted the job, but JFB hired Kenny Hatfield. Good man, good coach, but JJ would've done way more in making the program better.



cadillacattack wrote: a very sensible and well thought-out post, hawgin TN.

I also recall that a lot of Arkansas fans were outspokenly against the idea of trying to acquire Tuberville when the opportunity presented itself ... and he was another Arkansas homegrown talent.  Is that a coincidence or do folks just rebel once someone has left the fold?


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Posted: 8/31/2014 12:27 PM

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Great thoughts, put about as well as I've ever seen it put. 

hawginTN wrote: There are some in Arkansas, can't really say the percentage but I'd guess at least 15-20 %  that seem to love Gus more than they love the Razorbacks. Befuddling if you ask me. I think that adds fuel to the fire as the fanbase has been split since 2006. (Exception was the  two good CBP years) But even then there was a lot wrangling over the HDN/Malzahn issue.

But some believe he either undermined HDN while here, OR he used his high school players to parlay a gig in the college ranks. I don't necessarily subscribe to neither. But either could be true. I don't know.

What's ironic about the whole thing, is the national media laughed and yukked it up when Arkansas hired him. Now he's a media darling. I think that sticks with Arkansans as we usually feel mistreated by the national media.

I think it is a remarkable combination of events over the last 8 years that have left many fans feeling that we missed out on something special. That a homegrown high school coach could have made his name in his home state. That the success that Gus has had could've been in Fayetteville.

That and the fact that a certain winning coach here wrecked his motorcycle, embarrased our program, and while we sank to the depths of football hell Gus has risen to the top at a conference foe.

I personally wish the Gus lovers would get the fact that Gus is now an Auburn man. He will never coach in Fayetteville. That ship has sailed.  And it would be nice as well if the Gus haters would leave the issue alone. Put it to bed and move on.


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AUsoul wrote: Serious question.......why is there so much angst here against Gus from an integrity standpoint? To me, he comes across as the ultimate straight shooter and his record as OC and HC at 4 universities is as good as it gets. I know there was turmoil at Arky in the year he was Nutt's OC but my gosh, y'all won the West that year and went to Atlanta.
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