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Posted: 8/23/2014 10:33 AM

Where are the wins going to come? 


Seen several that have predicted 8-9 wins this year.  It's based on us being better, which I agree with, but I am not sure who got worse - maybe A&M, but Sumlin always has a tough O, just not so much on D.  Here's how I see it as of right now, but, remember, I am no Archi when it comes to predicting games - and this is me being optimistic.  If we went 6-6, I'd be elated.  Could just as easily see 4.  I cannot just as easily see 8, as of yet. 

Auburn - L
Nicholls St - W
Texas Tech - L (torn on this one, but leaning more towards loss right now, just cause I haven't been impressed by our DBs in years. Hopefully that changes this year, but haven't seen us yet)
Northern Illinois - W
Texas A&M - W (think we upset on this one)
Alabama - L
Georgia - L
UAB - W
Mississippi State - W
LSU - L
Ole Miss - L
Missouri - W

Teach a man to fish? What's he been doing all these years?!
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Posted: 8/23/2014 11:02 AM

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AUB - W (I think Tre Mason was more important than many think, plus 4 dropped TD passes last year and Hocker's only missed FG. We should have won.)
Nicholls St - W (don't agree much with what McFarland said last night, but on this he said its a stat game, and I agree)
TT - L (if we catch a break, we could actually win this game, if we get to 8 wins this game is crucial)
Northern Illinois - W (they've lost quite a bit)
aTm - W (I disagree with you on this, the reason Manziel was so good is that he had to be, their OLINE was questionable, plus you can't replace Evans. I wouldn't be surprised if aTm goes ofer in the SEC)
Bama - L
GA - L
UAB - W (stat game)
Miss St - W (we wasn't that far behind them last year, if we win 8, we have to win)
LSU - W (Trap game for LSU, and the players should be pissed because we wasn't "good" enough to be their rivals.
Ole Miss - L (might be best team in West)
Missery - L (This will be the 8th win, if we win 8. Missery lost a lot, but this is a bigger rivalry for them than us, and it's their last home game)

Edit: I said 6-6, but I think I have us at 7-5, with two games that can be easily reversed, so anywhere from 6-6 to 9-3 plus a bowl game.

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Seen several that have predicted 8-9 wins this year.  It's based on us being better, which I agree with, but I am not sure who got worse - maybe A&M, but Sumlin always has a tough O, just not so much on D.  Here's how I see it as of right now, but, remember, I am no Archi when it comes to predicting games - and this is me being optimistic.  If we went 6-6, I'd be elated.  Could just as easily see 4.  I cannot just as easily see 8, as of yet. 

Auburn - L
Nicholls St - W
Texas Tech - L (torn on this one, but leaning more towards loss right now, just cause I haven't been impressed by our DBs in years. Hopefully that changes this year, but haven't seen us yet)
Northern Illinois - W
Texas A&M - W (think we upset on this one)
Alabama - L
Georgia - L
UAB - W
Mississippi State - W
LSU - L
Ole Miss - L
Missouri - W



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Posted: 8/23/2014 11:30 AM

5 to 7 right here 


I think we still don't match up well with MO (Pinkel really uses the whole field), hard to see a W there . . . could probably say the same thing about Auburn but we're getting them at the optimal time (maybe?). 

Confident wins (2):
Nicholls, UAB

Feeling good about this one (1)
NIU (this team will NOT be afraid of us)

I think we catch them at the right time (2)
AuburnGeorgia (GA plays at MO the week before, then at AR, back to back long road trips, our O-Line should wear them down). 

Could steal one of these (3):
Ole MissMSU, aTmLSU (problem is atm has a three-game cakewalk before playing us, and they'll have a ton of film, Sumlin should have them ready to exploit us; also I realize LSU shouldn't be here but we all know we often rise to this game even when we're not supposed to). 

All that's to say, I think we win 5 or 6, possibly 7 but we'll need some bounces.

EDIT: Meam to throw TTU in the "could steal one of these" list. Problem is they place UCA and UTEP before us, and although I think UTEP could surprise them and win, I don't see TTU being worn down much from that competition (whereas we will have a hard fought game with Awbarn).
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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:01 AM

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Your predictions are very close to mine, but I like to group mine a little bit.  My predictions follow my expectation of becoming bowl eligible with 6 wins, leaving open the possibility of 7. Either of those marks plus a bowl victory would be a great sign of progress.  Your totals follow the following formula:

1 from Texas
1 from Mississippi
1 from neighbors, North and South
3 from NC (which would mean a sweep of 4 NC should Tech be the Texas WIN

To which I would add:
1 from the Rock

Such a course would leave us .500 or 3-3, entering the game in LR against Georgia.

An upset in the Rock could propel us to 6-3, with three very challenging games left.

Win one of the North-South games and we have our 7th win.

One great challenge for this team will come should it find itself 3-4 after the Georgia game.  Will it respond by winning the  three games it needs to win during that final stretch? Or will the last five games turn into a repeat of last year? noidea








broeric wrote:

Seen several that have predicted 8-9 wins this year.  It's based on us being better, which I agree with, but I am not sure who got worse - maybe A&M, but Sumlin always has a tough O, just not so much on D.  Here's how I see it as of right now, but, remember, I am no Archi when it comes to predicting games - and this is me being optimistic.  If we went 6-6, I'd be elated.  Could just as easily see 4.  I cannot just as easily see 8, as of yet. 

Auburn - L
Nicholls St - W
Texas Tech - L (torn on this one, but leaning more towards loss right now, just cause I haven't been impressed by our DBs in years. Hopefully that changes this year, but haven't seen us yet)
Northern Illinois - W
Texas A&M - W (think we upset on this one)
Alabama - L
Georgia - L
UAB - W
Mississippi State - W
LSU - L
Ole Miss - L
Missouri - W

This boy is Ignorance and this girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”  - Charles Dickens
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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:03 AM

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Auburn - L
Nicholls St - W
Texas Tech - W *
Northern Illinois - W
Texas A&M - W *
Alabama - L
Georgia - L
UAB - W
Mississippi State - W*
LSU - L
Ole Miss - L
Missouri - W*

* - We could go 2 for 4, or 3 for 4 in these games.  Win 3 and we are bowl eligible, win 2 and we made progress over last season.  I'm good with either of those scenarios. 

I'm not going to hold my breath, but not going to be too surprised when we pull off the stunner of the season and beat someone we were not supposed to.  Will it be the first game of the year?  Will it be the sixth, seventh, or tenth???  #WPS
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Posted: 8/24/2014 4:18 PM

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Broeric praying for miracles!

Auburn - L, 49/51
Nicholls St - W
Texas Tech - W, 51/49
Northern Illinois - W
Texas A&M - W,
Alabama - L
Georgia - L
UAB - W
Mississippi State - L
LSU - W, our true upset this year
Ole Miss - W
Missouri - W
Bowl Game-***

go on a four game run to end the season that quiets all CBB doubters and starts NC talk for 2015.

That's 9 wins but more likely 7-8.
I like FCJ so sue me!

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Posted: 8/24/2014 6:06 PM

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Won't quiet all CBB doubters, said several times we don't have to improve any to win 6, a little luck and we can win 8 and not improve. I'm looking for improvement. If I see improvement (not more wins) then I'll be nicer to him. Right now, no improvement has been seen, regardless of what all the AR coaches and media have said.


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Broeric praying for miracles!

Auburn - L, 49/51
Nicholls St - W
Texas Tech - W, 51/49
Northern Illinois - W
Texas A&M - W,
Alabama - L
Georgia - L
UAB - W
Mississippi State - L
LSU - W, our true upset this year
Ole Miss - W
Missouri - W
Bowl Game-***

go on a four game run to end the season that quiets all CBB doubters and starts NC talk for 2015.

That's 9 wins but more likely 7-8.

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Posted: 8/24/2014 7:26 PM

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bakedog19741 wrote: Won't quiet all CBB doubters, said several times we don't have to improve any to win 6, a little luck and we can win 8 and not improve. I'm looking for improvement. If I see improvement (not more wins) then I'll be nicer to him. Right now, no improvement has been seen, regardless of what all the AR coaches and media have said.
I am curious as to how, if we don't improve, that we can win more than we did last year, when most everybody agrees that this year's schedule is tougher than last year?
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Posted: 8/24/2014 7:40 PM

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aTm - we had several chances to take the lead and win that game (team was nervous and finally folded, plus JF and Evans are gone)
AUB - 4 dropped TD's (not dropped passes, dropped TD's, and a missed FG. We should have won. Plus they lost Mason, more important than many give him credit for)
LSU - Bad play calling in the 4th, we should have won. They lost a ton + we catch them between Bama and aTm
UAB - Not very good
Nicholls St - not very good
NIU - Lost a ton of talent (last two years they were 24-4)

That's 6.

We also had a very good opportunity to beat MSU last year, guess what, they lost a few playmakers

That's 7

TT is a toss up
Missery lost a ton

That's with putting the same team playing the exact same way. Most lost their difference makers.

Now have we improved at several positions, we should have, but no one will know until Sat.

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bakedog19741 wrote: Won't quiet all CBB doubters, said several times we don't have to improve any to win 6, a little luck and we can win 8 and not improve. I'm looking for improvement. If I see improvement (not more wins) then I'll be nicer to him. Right now, no improvement has been seen, regardless of what all the AR coaches and media have said.
I am curious as to how, if we don't improve, that we can win more than we did last year, when most everybody agrees that this year's schedule is tougher than last year?

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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:27 PM

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It is highly appropriate that in terms of logical fallacies, the evidence required to demonstrate improvement in this case is a classic example of "moving the goal posts."  When a proponent of a particular notion nears the evidentiary burden previously established by an opponent, the opponent tacks on additional requirements.

I understand that a team can improve, yet have fewer victories, and that a team can remain the same or worse, and have more victories.  Will you be as accommodating, however, of the idea that the team has improved in the event that it posts an identical record as you are dismissive of additional wins as evidence of improvement?  I tend to doubt that, as the same number of wins will reinforce your point, although  different than the one you originally made.

The problem with not considering wins and losses, no matter how uninformative a particular close win or loss might be, is that wins and losses are the metric by which most people judge the performance of a coach or a team.  I understand that Auburn might have been the most extraordinarily lucky team in the history of college football to avoid two and possibly three conference losses on last year's schedule, but not many people would accept my suggestion that Auburn was an 8-4 football team, not a rightful participant in the national championship game.

The moral of the story is that no improvement in the won-loss category will increase the heat for Coach B substantially. Winning 6 games and achieving a bowl game, win or lose, will be viewed as evidence of progress by most.  Winning 8 or more will put him on most people's list for Coach of the Year.  Right or wrong, at least those are verifiable measures than an average fan can understand.

bakedog19741 wrote:
aTm - we had several chances to take the lead and win that game (team was nervous and finally folded, plus JF and Evans are gone)
AUB - 4 dropped TD's (not dropped passes, dropped TD's, and a missed FG. We should have won. Plus they lost Mason, more important than many give him credit for)
LSU - Bad play calling in the 4th, we should have won. They lost a ton + we catch them between Bama and aTm
UAB - Not very good
Nicholls St - not very good
NIU - Lost a ton of talent (last two years they were 24-4)

That's 6.

We also had a very good opportunity to beat MSU last year, guess what, they lost a few playmakers

That's 7

TT is a toss up
Missery lost a ton

That's with putting the same team playing the exact same way. Most lost their difference makers.

Now have we improved at several positions, we should have, but no one will know until Sat.

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bakedog19741 wrote: Won't quiet all CBB doubters, said several times we don't have to improve any to win 6, a little luck and we can win 8 and not improve. I'm looking for improvement. If I see improvement (not more wins) then I'll be nicer to him. Right now, no improvement has been seen, regardless of what all the AR coaches and media have said.
I am curious as to how, if we don't improve, that we can win more than we did last year, when most everybody agrees that this year's schedule is tougher than last year?

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This boy is Ignorance and this girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”  - Charles Dickens
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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:38 PM

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Drives me crazy how far the goal post have moved since 2011! It is what it is and we must wait for more data but in two or three years you people better not be pulling the Nutt/GOBN stuff if Bake is right. I'll go ballistic!
I like FCJ so sue me!
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Posted: 8/24/2014 8:39 PM

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I love August. Hope springs eternal from Carolina to Missouri. I even saw some Kentucky fans who seem somewhat optimistic.

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AUB - W (I think Tre Mason was more important than many think, plus 4 dropped TD passes last year and Hocker's only missed FG. We should have won.)
Nicholls St - W (don't agree much with what McFarland said last night, but on this he said its a stat game, and I agree)
TT - L (if we catch a break, we could actually win this game, if we get to 8 wins this game is crucial)
Northern Illinois - W (they've lost quite a bit)
aTm - W (I disagree with you on this, the reason Manziel was so good is that he had to be, their OLINE was questionable, plus you can't replace Evans. I wouldn't be surprised if aTm goes ofer in the SEC)
Bama - L
GA - L
UAB - W (stat game)
Miss St - W (we wasn't that far behind them last year, if we win 8, we have to win)
LSU - W (Trap game for LSU, and the players should be pissed because we wasn't "good" enough to be their rivals.
Ole Miss - L (might be best team in West)
Missery - L (This will be the 8th win, if we win 8. Missery lost a lot, but this is a bigger rivalry for them than us, and it's their last home game)

Edit: I said 6-6, but I think I have us at 7-5, with two games that can be easily reversed, so anywhere from 6-6 to 9-3 plus a bowl game.

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Seen several that have predicted 8-9 wins this year.  It's based on us being better, which I agree with, but I am not sure who got worse - maybe A&M, but Sumlin always has a tough O, just not so much on D.  Here's how I see it as of right now, but, remember, I am no Archi when it comes to predicting games - and this is me being optimistic.  If we went 6-6, I'd be elated.  Could just as easily see 4.  I cannot just as easily see 8, as of yet. 

Auburn - L
Nicholls St - W
Texas Tech - L (torn on this one, but leaning more towards loss right now, just cause I haven't been impressed by our DBs in years. Hopefully that changes this year, but haven't seen us yet)
Northern Illinois - W
Texas A&M - W (think we upset on this one)
Alabama - L
Georgia - L
UAB - W
Mississippi State - W
LSU - L
Ole Miss - L
Missouri - W



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Posted: 8/24/2014 9:22 PM

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My original comment was give him time, and the fanbase may not give it to him. I said for this reason I believe he is a stopgap. The he opened his mouth and I decided he doesn't deserve time.

Now as for this year, we don't have to improve football wise to win more games, and as I said, unfortunately CBB will get credit for that. Now if we have improved (I believe we have a certain positions), and go 3-9 I'll be happy because we are showing improvement, but I'm not sure how many on here would agree. As you said hot seat. Same thing with CMA, I'm positive we will improve this year, but if he doesn't make the dance, how much longer does he get?

Now, I'll use the RB's and the QB's and CBB's statements to show why I don't think our QB is drastically better. CBB has said any of our RB's can start and take over at any time, so all three are working their rears off to get playing time. However, before the first spring practice, he said Allen was our starting QB because he has something you can't teach experience. He never gave the other two a fair shot. If he doesn't get any pressure from his backup how is he gonna improve. He doesn't have to, that's an issue. And to use another CBB statement, the most improved player all spring and summer was Tevin Mitchel. Mitchel had off season surgery and wasn't cleared until last week. Think about that for a minute.


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It is highly appropriate that in terms of logical fallacies, the evidence required to demonstrate improvement in this case is a classic example of "moving the goal posts."  When a proponent of a particular notion nears the evidentiary burden previously established by an opponent, the opponent tacks on additional requirements.

I understand that a team can improve, yet have fewer victories, and that a team can remain the same or worse, and have more victories.  Will you be as accommodating, however, of the idea that the team has improved in the event that it posts an identical record as you are dismissive of additional wins as evidence of improvement?  I tend to doubt that, as the same number of wins will reinforce your point, although  different than the one you originally made.

The problem with not considering wins and losses, no matter how uninformative a particular close win or loss might be, is that wins and losses are the metric by which most people judge the performance of a coach or a team.  I understand that Auburn might have been the most extraordinarily lucky team in the history of college football to avoid two and possibly three conference losses on last year's schedule, but not many people would accept my suggestion that Auburn was an 8-4 football team, not a rightful participant in the national championship game.

The moral of the story is that no improvement in the won-loss category will increase the heat for Coach B substantially. Winning 6 games and achieving a bowl game, win or lose, will be viewed as evidence of progress by most.  Winning 8 or more will put him on most people's list for Coach of the Year.  Right or wrong, at least those are verifiable measures than an average fan can understand.

bakedog19741 wrote:
aTm - we had several chances to take the lead and win that game (team was nervous and finally folded, plus JF and Evans are gone)
AUB - 4 dropped TD's (not dropped passes, dropped TD's, and a missed FG. We should have won. Plus they lost Mason, more important than many give him credit for)
LSU - Bad play calling in the 4th, we should have won. They lost a ton + we catch them between Bama and aTm
UAB - Not very good
Nicholls St - not very good
NIU - Lost a ton of talent (last two years they were 24-4)

That's 6.

We also had a very good opportunity to beat MSU last year, guess what, they lost a few playmakers

That's 7

TT is a toss up
Missery lost a ton

That's with putting the same team playing the exact same way. Most lost their difference makers.

Now have we improved at several positions, we should have, but no one will know until Sat.

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bakedog19741 wrote: Won't quiet all CBB doubters, said several times we don't have to improve any to win 6, a little luck and we can win 8 and not improve. I'm looking for improvement. If I see improvement (not more wins) then I'll be nicer to him. Right now, no improvement has been seen, regardless of what all the AR coaches and media have said.
I am curious as to how, if we don't improve, that we can win more than we did last year, when most everybody agrees that this year's schedule is tougher than last year?

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Posted: 8/25/2014 10:02 AM

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Tevin was cleared last week for contact.  He's still been practicing. Working on technique, strength, understanding - so he could still be the most improved player, even if he has not been hitting.
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Posted: 8/25/2014 10:12 AM

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What was his issue? He couldn't tackle. Remember the complaining. So if he wasn't cleared for contact, how did he improve?


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Tevin was cleared last week for contact.  He's still been practicing. Working on technique, strength, understanding - so he could still be the most improved player, even if he has not been hitting.

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Posted: 8/25/2014 10:18 AM

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bakedog19741 wrote: What was his issue? He couldn't tackle. Remember the complaining. So if he wasn't cleared for contact, how did he improve?

My biggest complaint about the DBs for years has not been tackling, but they cannot cover and don't seem to be able to located the ball, so it's rather easy for me to see where improvement can be made.  But even if his biggest issue was tackling, and for the sake of argument let's say it was, surely you are not suggesting that he and the other DBs did not have plenty of room to improve in the other areas.  I'm not sure why it's difficult to see how he improved, even improved the most (which just to be clear, does not mean he's the best CB - Coach has repeatedly said that is Washington right now) 

Well, I do see it. It goes against the narrative you've created about CBB

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Posted: 8/25/2014 10:19 AM

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broeric wrote:

Seen several that have predicted 8-9 wins this year.  It's based on us being better, which I agree with, but I am not sure who got worse - maybe A&M, but Sumlin always has a tough O, just not so much on D.  Here's how I see it as of right now, but, remember, I am no Archi when it comes to predicting games - and this is me being optimistic.  If we went 6-6, I'd be elated.  Could just as easily see 4.  I cannot just as easily see 8, as of yet. 

Auburn - L
Nicholls St - W
Texas Tech - L (torn on this one, but leaning more towards loss right now, just cause I haven't been impressed by our DBs in years. Hopefully that changes this year, but haven't seen us yet)
Northern Illinois - W
Texas A&M - W (think we upset on this one)
Alabama - L
Georgia - L
UAB - W
Mississippi State - W
LSU - L
Ole Miss - L
Missouri - W

Aub - L
NS - W
TT- L
NIU - W
TAMU - L
Bama - L
GA - L
UAB - W
MSU- W
LSU - L
Ole Piss - L
Mizzou - L/W

My swing game from 4-5 wins is the Mizzou.  I think I predicted 5-7 but now I'm not sure where that 5th win comes from if we don't get Mizzou.   If we improve through the year then we could get Mizzou.

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Posted: 8/25/2014 10:36 AM

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That's where you're incorrect. Ever since he arrived, Mitchel has been out best on ball defender. His issue was tackling. He can't improve that without contact, no matter how much y'all want to prove him right.

Edit: oh and coach has said the three most improved are Mitchel, Hines, and J. Collins (all CB's)
Hines and Collins can improve in the areas you mentioned, but Mitchel can't, he's done it ever since he's been here. He's been the only one that has. And I believe "Coach" said Washington got moved to outside LB. Edit: guess he didn't move

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bakedog19741 wrote: What was his issue? He couldn't tackle. Remember the complaining. So if he wasn't cleared for contact, how did he improve?
My biggest complaint about the DBs for years has not been tackling, but they cannot cover and don't seem to be able to located the ball, so it's rather easy for me to see where improvement can be made.  But even if his biggest issue was tackling, and for the sake of argument let's say it was, surely you are not suggesting that he and the other DBs did not have plenty of room to improve in the other areas.  I'm not sure why it's difficult to see how he improved, even improved the most (which just to be clear, does not mean he's the best CB - Coach has repeatedly said that is Washington right now) 

Well, I do see it. It goes against the narrative you've created about CBB



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Posted: 8/25/2014 10:39 AM

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Well, I do see it. It goes against the narrative you've created about CBB



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Which I get, mainly because of my experience with Pelphrey. I liked the previous coach and didn't want him fired; I never liked the hire. I like to think I turned out to be right but honestly I probably would have been somewhat upset to be wrong because I simply didn't want Pelphrey here. No way he's as bad as so thought, but my mind was made up anyway.

I hope you're wrong.
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Posted: 8/25/2014 10:50 AM

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See, incorrect again. I called for Petrino's head (so did BHH) when he wrecked the motorcycle, before it was announced Dorrell was on the back. If you remember several players had gotten arrested and then the coach wrecks while not obeying several laws. Can't teach kids the right way if you aren't doing it yourself.

Now as for Petrino, if he wouldn't have been fired we would still have won at least 8 the last two years, with the bare cupboard).

As for CBB, I like the staff he built, I like the areas he's recruiting (FL/Texas) and succeeding, and I really like the fact he's dismissed players who seem to think FB is more important than education. I just don't like his comments.
An example would be about two weeks ago during the tradition challenge on ESPN. It was between the Hog call and Wisky's jump around. CBB just happened to say at a press conference we needed to get the fans more involved cause the Hog call wasn't enough, maybe need to play music between quarters to pump up the students. Hmmm, great timing. The best thing he can do is shut up. If he would have went 9-3 last year and said the same things he wouldn't be catching flack from the "small minority", but he went 3-9 bashing fans, players, and other coaches won't endure him to many.


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--- broeric wrote:

Well, I do see it. It goes against the narrative you've created about CBB



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Which I get, mainly because of my experience with Pelphrey. I liked the previous coach and didn't want him fired; I never liked the hire. I like to think I turned out to be right but honestly I probably would have been somewhat upset to be wrong because I simply didn't want Pelphrey here. No way he's as bad as so thought, but my mind was made up anyway.

I hope you're wrong.

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