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Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll

Posted: 8/20/2014 1:14 PM

Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll 


The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?

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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:28 PM

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Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?
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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:43 PM

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They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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Posted: 8/20/2014 1:50 PM

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I think the biggest improvement that needs to be seen in being able to achieve that 8-10 win possibility is the threat of being able to throw down field. I've read so many times on the practice reports where BA has overthrown the target when throwing downfield. I'm worried that if this does not get straightened out then we will become one-dimensional again this season, granted we do have several capable running backs, but we still need to have that downfield threat. 
bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:14 PM

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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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So to summarize, your predict the Hogs will double their wins from last year, go to a bowl game at 6-6 and be ranked in the top 30 teams in the country, but will not have improved any.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:21 PM

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I agree 100%. Jojo isn't a speed freak that can be that deep threat, but he's quick. He can run out five-ten yards and cut going full speed. I think that's going to help. We really haven't had anybody since Adams that could do that. In two years we get Jones. He's the deep threat we are waiting for. If these guys can pull of 8+ wins this yet I think we may land that type of receiver.

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I think the biggest improvement that needs to be seen in being able to achieve that 8-10 win possibility is the threat of being able to throw down field. I've read so many times on the practice reports where BA has overthrown the target when throwing downfield. I'm worried that if this does not get straightened out then we will become one-dimensional again this season, granted we do have several capable running backs, but we still need to have that downfield threat. 
bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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--- byates21 wrote:

Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:29 PM

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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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--- byates21 wrote:

Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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Who are the people in the highlighted portion of which you speak?

Go Hogs.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:37 PM

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Two words: reading comprehension.

I did not say they won't improve. I've said this many times. Last year, there are three games we should have won and didn't. Those three teams lost guys that were a lot more important to their team, than the guys we lost were to us. For ex: aTm lost Manziel and Evans, we lost Swanson and Hocker. All four great players, but aTm without Evans or Manziel may not have won a game last year. Us without Swanson or Hocker we still would have won three. So based off the performance of our guys last year, yes we can win three more and not improve at all. Once again, until next Sat we have no clue if we've improved.


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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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--- byates21 wrote:

Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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So to summarize, your predict the Hogs will double their wins from last year, go to a bowl game at 6-6 and be ranked in the top 30 teams in the country, but will not have improved any.

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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:39 PM

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"Columnists" that attended the practices and the scrimmages. As a matter of fact there is a link I posted the other day that says straight out Allen is doing the same thing he did last year.


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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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--- byates21 wrote:

Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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Who are the people in the highlighted portion of which you speak?

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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:43 PM

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We will be one of the most improved teams in the conference IF we can stay healthy.  If not then it will be 4 or 5 games in the win column.

Think the offense will avg 10 more points per game and the defense will allow 5 less points.  Based on those changes and applying those point changes to last years games, that would have given us a 8-4 record. 

Think we win 7 and then the bowl.

We need BA to have some success in the first game to build some very much needed confidence!!!!  That will be a very tall order considering our first game
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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:54 PM

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I really think Peavey is the better fit for this system. Not just because he is Bielema's recruit, but because I believe he has more talent than BA. I understand going with BA versus a true freshman in the SEC and I hope he proves us wrong this year, but I just don't see his downfield abilities and we need that threat in order to not be predictable like we were last season. 
Georgiahawg wrote: We will be one of the most improved teams in the conference IF we can stay healthy.  If not then it will be 4 or 5 games in the win column.

Think the offense will avg 10 more points per game and the defense will allow 5 less points.  Based on those changes and applying those point changes to last years games, that would have given us a 8-4 record. 

Think we win 7 and then the bowl.

We need BA to have some success in the first game to build some very much needed confidence!!!!  That will be a very tall order considering our first game
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Posted: 8/20/2014 3:59 PM

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I must have missed the link but are they "columnists" or "bloggers" because the 2 are very different.  1 is generally held to journalistic standards while the other generally are not.   Thus, one is more trustworthy both in having some skill to know what they are watching and writing about while the other does not. 
bakedog19741 wrote: "Columnists" that attended the practices and the scrimmages. As a matter of fact there is a link I posted the other day that says straight out Allen is doing the same thing he did last year.


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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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--- byates21 wrote:

Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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Who are the people in the highlighted portion of which you speak?

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Go Hogs.
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Posted: 8/20/2014 4:02 PM

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Some of the scouting reports I have seen on both Allen's and Peavey is that BA has a much stronger arm. That might be why there hasn't been a lot of focus (explains being off on the deep routes) on the deep pass. I've also saw reports that Storey has a cannon.


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I really think Peavey is the better fit for this system. Not just because he is Bielema's recruit, but because I believe he has more talent than BA. I understand going with BA versus a true freshman in the SEC and I hope he proves us wrong this year, but I just don't see his downfield abilities and we need that threat in order to not be predictable like we were last season. 
Georgiahawg wrote: We will be one of the most improved teams in the conference IF we can stay healthy.  If not then it will be 4 or 5 games in the win column.

Think the offense will avg 10 more points per game and the defense will allow 5 less points.  Based on those changes and applying those point changes to last years games, that would have given us a 8-4 record. 

Think we win 7 and then the bowl.

We need BA to have some success in the first game to build some very much needed confidence!!!!  That will be a very tall order considering our first game


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Posted: 8/20/2014 4:04 PM

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I disagree that one is held to a higher standard.


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I must have missed the link but are they "columnists" or "bloggers" because the 2 are very different.  1 is generally held to journalistic standards while the other generally are not.   Thus, one is more trustworthy both in having some skill to know what they are watching and writing about while the other does not. 
bakedog19741 wrote: "Columnists" that attended the practices and the scrimmages. As a matter of fact there is a link I posted the other day that says straight out Allen is doing the same thing he did last year.


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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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--- byates21 wrote:

Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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MultipleScoreGasms wrote:
MultipleScoreGasms wrote: I've been listening to Trey Biddy on DTS, and I'm paraphrasing, but he describes it like this.

"Brandon Allen  has the best overall grasp of the offense.  He's like watching someone order from the Adult menu while Austin and Rafe are still ordering from the kid's menu.  In that regard Austin is a little farther ahead of Rafe.  As a true freshman, Rafe needs more time in the system for his mind to catch up and adjust to the speed of the game.  As for arm strength, he gives that to Brandon with a very slight advantage over Rafe.  He says Rafe throws a sharp pass with a tight spiral, and has more mobility"

FWIW...I would have to give someone like TB a higher credibility score than a typical blogger.  He seems to shoot straight, and doesn't mind delivering the bad news as well.
bakedog19741 wrote: Some of the scouting reports I have seen on both Allen's and Peavey is that BA has a much stronger arm. That might be why there hasn't been a lot of focus (explains being off on the deep routes) on the deep pass. I've also saw reports that Storey has a cannon.


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I really think Peavey is the better fit for this system. Not just because he is Bielema's recruit, but because I believe he has more talent than BA. I understand going with BA versus a true freshman in the SEC and I hope he proves us wrong this year, but I just don't see his downfield abilities and we need that threat in order to not be predictable like we were last season. 
Georgiahawg wrote: We will be one of the most improved teams in the conference IF we can stay healthy.  If not then it will be 4 or 5 games in the win column.

Think the offense will avg 10 more points per game and the defense will allow 5 less points.  Based on those changes and applying those point changes to last years games, that would have given us a 8-4 record. 

Think we win 7 and then the bowl.

We need BA to have some success in the first game to build some very much needed confidence!!!!  That will be a very tall order considering our first game


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Posted: 8/20/2014 5:02 PM

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I don't disagree with that. You would expect a red-shirt JR to be ahead of the freshmen, in regards to understanding the offense.
As for arm strength, I have no idea who's got a stronger arm. I've seen both BA and Peavey, but I've also had a shoulder injury. It still hurts and causes issues trying to put some umpf on the ball when playing catch with my son. Could be why Allen's accuracy is off. Then again, as I've said on here, looking into triple coverage and still throwing isn't an accuracy problem. We won't know until we see him next Sat whether he's improved or not.

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MultipleScoreGasms wrote:
MultipleScoreGasms wrote: I've been listening to Trey Biddy on DTS, and I'm paraphrasing, but he describes it like this.

"Brandon Allen  has the best overall grasp of the offense.  He's like watching someone order from the Adult menu while Austin and Rafe are still ordering from the kid's menu.  In that regard Austin is a little farther ahead of Rafe.  As a true freshman, Rafe needs more time in the system for his mind to catch up and adjust to the speed of the game.  As for arm strength, he gives that to Brandon with a very slight advantage over Rafe.  He says Rafe throws a sharp pass with a tight spiral, and has more mobility"

FWIW...I would have to give someone like TB a higher credibility score than a typical blogger.  He seems to shoot straight, and doesn't mind delivering the bad news as well.
bakedog19741 wrote: Some of the scouting reports I have seen on both Allen's and Peavey is that BA has a much stronger arm. That might be why there hasn't been a lot of focus (explains being off on the deep routes) on the deep pass. I've also saw reports that Storey has a cannon.


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Georgiahawg wrote: We will be one of the most improved teams in the conference IF we can stay healthy.  If not then it will be 4 or 5 games in the win column.

Think the offense will avg 10 more points per game and the defense will allow 5 less points.  Based on those changes and applying those point changes to last years games, that would have given us a 8-4 record. 

Think we win 7 and then the bowl.

We need BA to have some success in the first game to build some very much needed confidence!!!!  That will be a very tall order considering our first game


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Posted: 8/22/2014 11:58 AM

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That is the great thing about this board and all other boards, you can disagree if you want. 

I for one, have heard numerous times from reading Clay Henry's reports that we have improved in numerous areas across the board.  Our coaches believe we have improved since last year.  Other coaches in the SEC have commented that we will be an improved team from last year (Gus Malzhan and Steve Spurrier).  Ken Hatfield believes we are improved and will surprise a few teams this year.  Most importantly, the ones who really count, the players believe they are improved and will be better than last year.  I tend to listen to those type of individuals over "bloggers"...


bakedog19741 wrote: I disagree that one is held to a higher standard.


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I must have missed the link but are they "columnists" or "bloggers" because the 2 are very different.  1 is generally held to journalistic standards while the other generally are not.   Thus, one is more trustworthy both in having some skill to know what they are watching and writing about while the other does not. 
bakedog19741 wrote: "Columnists" that attended the practices and the scrimmages. As a matter of fact there is a link I posted the other day that says straight out Allen is doing the same thing he did last year.


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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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Posted: 8/22/2014 1:34 PM

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Forget about Brandon Allen.  Last season was about turnover margin.  We forced 14 and lost 23, ranking 111th out of 123 division 1 teams last year.  Improve on that and we will improve our win total.

 

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Improved areas

Tight ends - Much better (Henry hurt last year- Derby and Sprinkle adds real depth)
Running Backs - Much better (Collins has only played the position for a couple years) - Marshall the x factor
Offensive line - Better at most positions except center
QB - Much better -BA one year older and shoulder OK
WRs- Much better - Much more depth

Defensive line - even - Interior needs to keep working
Linebackers - Much better - some real depth and experience - Coach letting them play
Defensive backs - Much better - New scheme will force more turnovers

Field goal kicker - even
7 wins at least..........

JAZD04 wrote: That is the great thing about this board and all other boards, you can disagree if you want. 

I for one, have heard numerous times from reading Clay Henry's reports that we have improved in numerous areas across the board.  Our coaches believe we have improved since last year.  Other coaches in the SEC have commented that we will be an improved team from last year (Gus Malzhan and Steve Spurrier).  Ken Hatfield believes we are improved and will surprise a few teams this year.  Most importantly, the ones who really count, the players believe they are improved and will be better than last year.  I tend to listen to those type of individuals over "bloggers"...


bakedog19741 wrote: I disagree that one is held to a higher standard.


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I must have missed the link but are they "columnists" or "bloggers" because the 2 are very different.  1 is generally held to journalistic standards while the other generally are not.   Thus, one is more trustworthy both in having some skill to know what they are watching and writing about while the other does not. 
bakedog19741 wrote: "Columnists" that attended the practices and the scrimmages. As a matter of fact there is a link I posted the other day that says straight out Allen is doing the same thing he did last year.


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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

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Posted: 8/22/2014 2:48 PM

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How do you know those are improved areas?

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Improved areas

Tight ends - Much better (Henry hurt last year- Derby and Sprinkle adds real depth)
Running Backs - Much better (Collins has only played the position for a couple years) - Marshall the x factor
Offensive line - Better at most positions except center
QB - Much better -BA one year older and shoulder OK
WRs- Much better - Much more depth

Defensive line - even - Interior needs to keep working
Linebackers - Much better - some real depth and experience - Coach letting them play
Defensive backs - Much better - New scheme will force more turnovers

Field goal kicker - even
7 wins at least..........

JAZD04 wrote: That is the great thing about this board and all other boards, you can disagree if you want. 

I for one, have heard numerous times from reading Clay Henry's reports that we have improved in numerous areas across the board.  Our coaches believe we have improved since last year.  Other coaches in the SEC have commented that we will be an improved team from last year (Gus Malzhan and Steve Spurrier).  Ken Hatfield believes we are improved and will surprise a few teams this year.  Most importantly, the ones who really count, the players believe they are improved and will be better than last year.  I tend to listen to those type of individuals over "bloggers"...


bakedog19741 wrote: I disagree that one is held to a higher standard.


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--- DallasRazorback wrote:

I must have missed the link but are they "columnists" or "bloggers" because the 2 are very different.  1 is generally held to journalistic standards while the other generally are not.   Thus, one is more trustworthy both in having some skill to know what they are watching and writing about while the other does not. 
bakedog19741 wrote: "Columnists" that attended the practices and the scrimmages. As a matter of fact there is a link I posted the other day that says straight out Allen is doing the same thing he did last year.


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bakedog19741 wrote:
They really didn't improve last year. Now did they play better at the end of the season? Yes, but I didn't see "improvement" as much as figuring out the system. Now, the question is have they improved this year? According to the coaching staff, YES. According to people who watch the practices and scrimmage...NO. We will see in 9 days. Now, I've said on here a few times I predict 6-6 with NO IMPROVEMENT. Now could they even do better if they haven't improved? Yes, as you and I agree, catching some breaks they didn't catch last year, may make them an 8 win team. The question then becomes did they improve? If they have, and catch breaks 9-10 wins is a possibility. Of course none of us know until 8/30/14.

Trust me, I want to see improvement. I know people have had different opinions and predictions, but honestly I'd be happy with 3-9 IF I see improvement. Would I be disappointed? Absolutely. I hate to see the team lose. I believe most on here would be happy with noticible improvement even if we lose. I'm not sure that if we go 6-6 and don't actually improve on the field (realistic possibility) that more natives will grow restless.


Edit: oops sorry didn't answer original question, yes I believe the Hogs will be ranked closer to the Top 25, may not crack it, but will be in Top 30 at least.
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Barring any significant injuries, I believe the Hogs could be knocking on the to 25 door by the end of the season. If they continue to improve like they did last season and catch the breaks they didn't last year then 8-4 or possibly even 9-3 is not out of the realm of possibilities. 
Libertarian Hog wrote: The Razorbacks are ranked #50 in the USA Today Coaches' Poll tied with Arizona and Northern Illinois.  This ranking puts them at #11 in the SEC ahead of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.  This is not too bad.  It could be worse.

Does anyone think the Hogs will be ranked higher at the end of the season?


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