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Posted: 8/16/2014 10:30 PM

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I know there are some doubters out there but in watching todays presser I see a confident coach who seems pleased with a lot of kids on this team. I was especially struck by the many comments pertaining to the high IQ's of several of the players.  I hear a coach who believes his players are buying in. I think we'll see a much improved team this year. What say some of you?



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Posted: 8/16/2014 10:54 PM

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I believe we will be improved, but we have a nasty schedule. I hope I am wrong, but I'm still thinking 4 or 5 wins, but could potentially win 7 or 8, if we get a little luck here and there. I am not a doubter though I just think it will be a year longer before we go bowling again. That was a big whole to dig out of in just two season with this schedule. Would not be surprised if we did this year though.
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I know there are some doubters out there but in watching todays presser I see a confident coach who seems pleased with a lot of kids on this team. I was especially struck by the many comments pertaining to the high IQ's of several of the players.  I hear a coach who believes his players are buying in. I think we'll see a much improved team this year. What say some of you?



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Posted: 8/16/2014 11:13 PM

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I don't think the schedule is as nasty as it appears. Several teams we were close to last year lost quite a bit. I think we actually gained more than we lost. It doesn't happen every year, but I think this is one of the years we improved by replacing what we lost. I don't think some of the others did the same.
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Posted: 8/17/2014 2:51 PM

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He was confident last year too. I don't think you'll ever see him any other way. He said at the end of last season things were lining up for us to have a turnaround similar to what Auburn and Missouri had last year. Don't know if he'd looked at the schedule then or not. If we don't ever get out of the top 5 in SOS every year it's going to be tough sledding for awhile.

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I know there are some doubters out there but in watching todays presser I see a confident coach who seems pleased with a lot of kids on this team. I was especially struck by the many comments pertaining to the high IQ's of several of the players.  I hear a coach who believes his players are buying in. I think we'll see a much improved team this year. What say some of you?



www.wholehogsports.com/...4/aug/16/10504/

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Posted: 8/17/2014 3:01 PM

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8 wins top 25 by November
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Posted: 8/17/2014 4:49 PM

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I think we'll be improved, and I think we'll get a couple more wins . . . BUT I also think CBB felt the same thing last summer, like we had some good football IQ on this team and that everyone was buying in . . . turns out, however, that in the SEC you still need a boatload of talent. 

We'll get there in time.
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Posted: 8/17/2014 5:46 PM

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When Bielema hired our strength and fitness coach shortly after his arrival, I think we got one of the best men in the business.  Little advantages like that take time to show up, but I think that we will see some of the signs of his influence beginning this year.

It is impressive how players have been able to gain and lose weight as directed by the coaches.  Plus, for the players that are bulking up, there seems to be an attempt to do so without losing speed.

Character is another quality that takes time to show positive effects, but I think we are already seeing signs of improvement on that score.  I think it says something that Bielema did not even blink when some discussed giving Dyer and some of our former troubled players another chance.  I think his message was loud and clear.

When that incident happened with the players getting caught on videotape stealing from other students' dorm rooms, there were awful rumors that the players were supporting a wide spread habit.  How that was possible with drug testing, I don't know, but I don't think that is an issue now. Combined with normal attrition, academics, and home sickness, losing those players practically gutted a recruiting class.  One would be a starting senior receiver and punt returner this year.

As much as I disagree with some of USA Today's evaluation of our current ranking, (89th or some such), the final analysis is pretty sound.  That writer believes that Bielema will succeed, but that initial progress will seem almost imperceptible to anybody but close observers.

While we all want the proof of progress yesterday, the key for the season is to show that we are in fact making progress. It would not be at all surprising for Auburn to spank us or to have difficulty on the road against Texas Tech.  That won't mean we are not getting better as a football team.

The worst thing in the world that could happen, IMO, is for baked to be right, and for Arkansas to start over again while Coach B is still in rebuilding mode.  If we do that after seasons three or four, I think we will become a regular fixture in the SEC cellar for the foreseeable future.

Now that I've said that, I'd like a glass of koolaid, please.
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Posted: 8/17/2014 11:02 PM

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Wow. That's guts right there now. Gotta admire your faith Pd. And if you're right or even close (say 7 wins) steak dinner's on me. Gladly


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8 wins top 25 by November
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Posted: 8/18/2014 8:13 AM

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I like coach B, and I like his style, it will work. Takes time though. The cupboard was empty (for the most part) and while I do believe the team will be improved by a large margin this year, I still believe the happiness happens in 2015. My big problem will be with our fans. We have a lot of numb-nuts that don't have any patience. We need to be patient one more year, like it or not.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 9:53 AM

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What is patience? Wasn't that a Guns and Roses song? Why would you say that? Is CBB starting a Rock band?

Once again his system will not work here. He's trying to out Bama, Bama and LSU. In order to achieve it we will have to out recruit them. Won't ever happen here. Sorry. Need an offensive mastermind that allows the offense to play like they did under Petrino. We need a defensive coordinator that can turn two and three star D players into a team that can hold up to Big Boy football and HUNH. Right now we don't have any of that. We have a coach who's blue print is Bama ball, problem is Bama's in our conference.


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I like coach B, and I like his style, it will work. Takes time though. The cupboard was empty (for the most part) and while I do believe the team will be improved by a large margin this year, I still believe the happiness happens in 2015. My big problem will be with our fans. We have a lot of numb-nuts that don't have any patience. We need to be patient one more year, like it or not.

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Posted: 8/18/2014 10:15 AM

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I covered all this in a post on the paid board. I'll summarize by saying that we haven't seen enough to make all the conclusions you're making.

bakedog19741 wrote: What is patience? Wasn't that a Guns and Roses song? Why would you say that? Is CBB starting a Rock band?

Once again his system will not work here. He's trying to out Bama, Bama and LSU. In order to achieve it we will have to out recruit them. Won't ever happen here. Sorry. Need an offensive mastermind that allows the offense to play like they did under Petrino. We need a defensive coordinator that can turn two and three star D players into a team that can hold up to Big Boy football and HUNH. Right now we don't have any of that. We have a coach who's blue print is Bama ball, problem is Bama's in our conference.


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--- talent1 wrote:

I like coach B, and I like his style, it will work. Takes time though. The cupboard was empty (for the most part) and while I do believe the team will be improved by a large margin this year, I still believe the happiness happens in 2015. My big problem will be with our fans. We have a lot of numb-nuts that don't have any patience. We need to be patient one more year, like it or not.

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This boy is Ignorance and this girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”  - Charles Dickens
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Posted: 8/18/2014 12:57 PM

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I went to the scrimmage on Saturday and I came away thinking it is going to be a long year.  I don't want to draw conclusions.  It's way too early for that.  But I simply was not impressed.   I hope I am wrong.  First, our play action passing game has very little vertical capability.  Yes, there were a few long passes completed but I do not remember seeing any kind of creative wheel routes, underneath coverage routes or over the middle streak routes.  Most routes were simple thrust routes where the receiver drives the defender back, plants a foot, turns and the ball is delivered - possession completions.  Nothing wrong with that for the type of game that Bielema wants to coach but it won't win ballgames in the SEC.  I was very disappointed in the 2 minute offense.  Starting on our own 25, the deepest penetration I saw we had was to the second string defense' 32.  A 49 yard field goal was missed or maybe it was made but what if we needed a touchdown?  At the end of a game, that my not be good enough.  No longer will we see an aggressive offensive mindset just before half time.  We will take a knee go in the locker room and regroup and not try to capture momentum before starting the second half.  Those days are over.

Do I blame Bret Bielema?  No, because he has never misrepresented who he is and what he is trying to do.  Our tone deaf athletic director (who I predict will be searching for greener pastures in the not-to-distant future) is the problem.  His priorities lie elsewhere and not with the Razorback fan base.   .His accomplishments include building palatial new structures (which fans rarely get to see), copyrighting the hog call, branding our program through the everwatchful eyes of NIKE and serving as chairman of the final four football committee.  All of that looks good on a resume but, unfortunately, putting a winning product on the football field seems to have been ignored.  I suppose he does not want it to conflict with his duties as chairman.   

The good news is that I may be wrong.  Let's all hope that I am but just in case, be prepared to be frustrated and try not to take your anger and frustration out on those you love   They don't deserve our angst anymore than we deserve the incompetency  of our current athletic director.  .
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Posted: 8/18/2014 1:08 PM

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I've seen and heard enough from CBB to know one day as HC of the Razorbacks was too long.


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I covered all this in a post on the paid board. I'll summarize by saying that we haven't seen enough to make all the conclusions you're making.

bakedog19741 wrote: What is patience? Wasn't that a Guns and Roses song? Why would you say that? Is CBB starting a Rock band?

Once again his system will not work here. He's trying to out Bama, Bama and LSU. In order to achieve it we will have to out recruit them. Won't ever happen here. Sorry. Need an offensive mastermind that allows the offense to play like they did under Petrino. We need a defensive coordinator that can turn two and three star D players into a team that can hold up to Big Boy football and HUNH. Right now we don't have any of that. We have a coach who's blue print is Bama ball, problem is Bama's in our conference.


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--- talent1 wrote:

I like coach B, and I like his style, it will work. Takes time though. The cupboard was empty (for the most part) and while I do believe the team will be improved by a large margin this year, I still believe the happiness happens in 2015. My big problem will be with our fans. We have a lot of numb-nuts that don't have any patience. We need to be patient one more year, like it or not.

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Posted: 8/18/2014 1:29 PM

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NostraHOGus wrote: When Bielema hired our strength and fitness coach shortly after his arrival, I think we got one of the best men in the business.  Little advantages like that take time to show up, but I think that we will see some of the signs of his influence beginning this year.

It is impressive how players have been able to gain and lose weight as directed by the coaches.  Plus, for the players that are bulking up, there seems to be an attempt to do so without losing speed.

Character is another quality that takes time to show positive effects, but I think we are already seeing signs of improvement on that score.  I think it says something that Bielema did not even blink when some discussed giving Dyer and some of our former troubled players another chance.  I think his message was loud and clear.

When that incident happened with the players getting caught on videotape stealing from other students' dorm rooms, there were awful rumors that the players were supporting a wide spread habit.  How that was possible with drug testing, I don't know, but I don't think that is an issue now. Combined with normal attrition, academics, and home sickness, losing those players practically gutted a recruiting class.  One would be a starting senior receiver and punt returner this year.

As much as I disagree with some of USA Today's evaluation of our current ranking, (89th or some such), the final analysis is pretty sound.  That writer believes that Bielema will succeed, but that initial progress will seem almost imperceptible to anybody but close observers.

While we all want the proof of progress yesterday, the key for the season is to show that we are in fact making progress. It would not be at all surprising for Auburn to spank us or to have difficulty on the road against Texas Tech.  That won't mean we are not getting better as a football team.

The worst thing in the world that could happen, IMO, is for baked to be right, and for Arkansas to start over again while Coach B is still in rebuilding mode.  If we do that after seasons three or four, I think we will become a regular fixture in the SEC cellar for the foreseeable future.

Now that I've said that, I'd like a glass of koolaid, please.
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Yep.  Unfortunately, Arkansas fans haven't been in the mood to be patient since Nutt.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 2:01 PM

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talent1 wrote: I like coach B, and I like his style, it will work. Takes time though. The cupboard was empty (for the most part) and while I do believe the team will be improved by a large margin this year, I still believe the happiness happens in 2015. My big problem will be with our fans. We have a lot of numb-nuts that don't have any patience. We need to be patient one more year, like it or not.


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Posted: 8/18/2014 2:46 PM

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Interesting add on page 7 in the sports section of the ADG yesterday. Compared Long's salary to other ADs around the country and the results they achieved in 7 years or less. Long's achievements were not very impressive in that regard. As far as getting what you pay for we are pretty much at the bottom paying out around 1.7 mil a year on his salary.

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I went to the scrimmage on Saturday and I came away thinking it is going to be a long year.  I don't want to draw conclusions.  It's way too early for that.  But I simply was not impressed.   I hope I am wrong.  First, our play action passing game has very little vertical capability.  Yes, there were a few long passes completed but I do not remember seeing any kind of creative wheel routes, underneath coverage routes or over the middle streak routes.  Most routes were simple thrust routes where the receiver drives the defender back, plants a foot, turns and the ball is delivered - possession completions.  Nothing wrong with that for the type of game that Bielema wants to coach but it won't win ballgames in the SEC.  I was very disappointed in the 2 minute offense.  Starting on our own 25, the deepest penetration I saw we had was to the second string defense' 32.  A 49 yard field goal was missed or maybe it was made but what if we needed a touchdown?  At the end of a game, that my not be good enough.  No longer will we see an aggressive offensive mindset just before half time.  We will take a knee go in the locker room and regroup and not try to capture momentum before starting the second half.  Those days are over.

Do I blame Bret Bielema?  No, because he has never misrepresented who he is and what he is trying to do.  Our tone deaf athletic director (who I predict will be searching for greener pastures in the not-to-distant future) is the problem.  His priorities lie elsewhere and not with the Razorback fan base.   .His accomplishments include building palatial new structures (which fans rarely get to see), copyrighting the hog call, branding our program through the everwatchful eyes of NIKE and serving as chairman of the final four football committee.  All of that looks good on a resume but, unfortunately, putting a winning product on the football field seems to have been ignored.  I suppose he does not want it to conflict with his duties as chairman.   

The good news is that I may be wrong.  Let's all hope that I am but just in case, be prepared to be frustrated and try not to take your anger and frustration out on those you love   They don't deserve our angst anymore than we deserve the incompetency  of our current athletic director.  .

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Posted: 8/18/2014 3:01 PM

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We are married to Coach Bielema for another couple of years like it or not. Hopefully his way will work.  Like I said, he is coaching the game his way and he is true to his methods because he had some fine achievements at Wisconsin but Wisconsin is not Arkansas and the Big Ten is not the SEC.  As of right now, I am not sold.  The only way to win me over is to win ballgames.  Call me a "numb-nut" but in my view,  winning cannot happen soon enough.  When we win we will not feel a need to call our fellow Razorback brothers and sisters "numb-nuts".
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Posted: 8/18/2014 3:30 PM

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Like it or not, our fan base, along with everyone elses, has a bunch of inpatient "numb-nuts". Don't take it personal. I`m not calling anyone on here a "numb-nut" but trust me, we have them.

I`m not sure that HUNH is "big boy football" either. It may be, but I have a hard time believing that considering what I see on Sundays. Don't get me wrong, I know it works, but you have to have the players for it, and recruit those types, which we don't. HUNH works great at the high school level with all those 5`8" players that can all run a 4.4 40. It may work fine for Freeze and Malzahn, but I don't care, because they don't coach here. CBB is recruiting the groundpounder big boys that I truly think we can call the type of players for "big boy football". The guys that truly want to play on Sundays will come to Arkansas if we will be patient and let his players take hold. 

Have a great day everyone! and GO HOGS!
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Posted: 8/18/2014 4:20 PM

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I had to look at my statement again. You misread it, I do not think the HUNH is "big boy football." I consider what Bama, LSU, and what CBB is trying here "Big Boy football". You have to have the studs to run it thought. As much as I like some of our young guys and some of our recruits, what happens if someone gets injured? Bama and LSU has a 2nd stringer at every position who can compete with any of our players for starting time. We aren't close yet. For CBB to be successful, he will have to have that kind of talent. My comments about the HUNH was that we need a defense that can play against the pounding of Bama 1 week and slow down AUB the next.




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Like it or not, our fan base, along with everyone elses, has a bunch of inpatient "numb-nuts". Don't take it personal. I`m not calling anyone on here a "numb-nut" but trust me, we have them.

I`m not sure that HUNH is "big boy football" either. It may be, but I have a hard time believing that considering what I see on Sundays. Don't get me wrong, I know it works, but you have to have the players for it, and recruit those types, which we don't. HUNH works great at the high school level with all those 5`8" players that can all run a 4.4 40. It may work fine for Freeze and Malzahn, but I don't care, because they don't coach here. CBB is recruiting the groundpounder big boys that I truly think we can call the type of players for "big boy football". The guys that truly want to play on Sundays will come to Arkansas if we will be patient and let his players take hold. 

Have a great day everyone! and GO HOGS!

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Posted: 8/18/2014 4:46 PM

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Coaches are like investments. They can be high risk, high return, and there's nothing more exhilarating that getting in on the ground floor of a rocket ride....until the darn thing crashes faster than you can sell everything you've got.

Then there's the boring, plodding, low annual return sure thing.  Most people get so frustrated waiting for an appreciable increase in value that they sell it to invest in something that gets the blood pumping. 

Another class of people, however, notices that the annual returns, while small, are dependable. More importantly, the value tends to remain stable, even when the market as a whole becomes volatile.  As the returns compound over the years, and the dividends are reinvested in the stock, a man of fairly modest means  wakes up one day and realizes how fortunate he was to stay the course while others fell by the wayside. He owns a valuable asset that is resistant to the whims and vagaries of the business cycle and fickle investor behavior.

Arkansas MIGHT win six games this year.  The Hogs may only win 7 or 8 next year.

But given our luck with coaching searches and the attractiveness of the position, we had better think twice before selling off our investment so we can invest in the flavor of the day.  IMO,iIt's all about what gives you satisfaction and more of it.

For me personally, 11-2, with the two losses being blowouts against the only two legit teams we played, was not very satisfying. 2010 was as close as BP ever got to putting together a winning formula, and I'm not sure how much of that was a conscious effort. 

It was a great rocket ride, though, until....well, you know.

By the way, I wouldn't put too much stock in what you saw at the scrimmage.  I think the staff believes that there are Malzahn spies all over NW Arkansas, and I suspect they are right.  The game will be challenging enough without telegraphing every move.


squirrelhog wrote: Interesting add on page 7 in the sports section of the ADG yesterday. Compared Long's salary to other ADs around the country and the results they achieved in 7 years or less. Long's achievements were not very impressive in that regard. As far as getting what you pay for we are pretty much at the bottom paying out around 1.7 mil a year on his salary.

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--- LC Porkwood wrote:

I went to the scrimmage on Saturday and I came away thinking it is going to be a long year.  I don't want to draw conclusions.  It's way too early for that.  But I simply was not impressed.   I hope I am wrong.  First, our play action passing game has very little vertical capability.  Yes, there were a few long passes completed but I do not remember seeing any kind of creative wheel routes, underneath coverage routes or over the middle streak routes.  Most routes were simple thrust routes where the receiver drives the defender back, plants a foot, turns and the ball is delivered - possession completions.  Nothing wrong with that for the type of game that Bielema wants to coach but it won't win ballgames in the SEC.  I was very disappointed in the 2 minute offense.  Starting on our own 25, the deepest penetration I saw we had was to the second string defense' 32.  A 49 yard field goal was missed or maybe it was made but what if we needed a touchdown?  At the end of a game, that my not be good enough.  No longer will we see an aggressive offensive mindset just before half time.  We will take a knee go in the locker room and regroup and not try to capture momentum before starting the second half.  Those days are over.

Do I blame Bret Bielema?  No, because he has never misrepresented who he is and what he is trying to do.  Our tone deaf athletic director (who I predict will be searching for greener pastures in the not-to-distant future) is the problem.  His priorities lie elsewhere and not with the Razorback fan base.   .His accomplishments include building palatial new structures (which fans rarely get to see), copyrighting the hog call, branding our program through the everwatchful eyes of NIKE and serving as chairman of the final four football committee.  All of that looks good on a resume but, unfortunately, putting a winning product on the football field seems to have been ignored.  I suppose he does not want it to conflict with his duties as chairman.   

The good news is that I may be wrong.  Let's all hope that I am but just in case, be prepared to be frustrated and try not to take your anger and frustration out on those you love   They don't deserve our angst anymore than we deserve the incompetency  of our current athletic director.  .

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This boy is Ignorance and this girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”  - Charles Dickens
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