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Scrimmage stats

Posted: 8/16/2014 5:57 PM

Scrimmage stats 


BA did much better today:

t.co/D92nSJLOYt


edit: more notes from the Razorbacks blog:

t.co/9c989mKHfi

Last edited 8/16/2014 6:33 PM by bakedog19741

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Posted: 8/16/2014 8:25 PM

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Some have been concerned about Collins' speed, but I'm glad he has bulked up a little, as long as he can still find that last gear.

He is a low to the ground, punishing, bowling ball type of runner, who can bounce off a lot of tackles.  I'm glad to hear he did that today. It's hard to believe he didn't play football until his junior year of high school.  He seems to enjoy the contact.


I think Korlis Marshall is the Felix Jones of the bunch.  The other two will get the carries if healthy, then Marshall will break off a big gain and make everybody wonder why he's not carrying the ball more.

Not to worry, though. A productive offense provides plenty of touches for three backs, particularly if the backs are used in the passing game.

Any chance Korlis has the skills to return kickoff or punts?
This boy is Ignorance and this girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”  - Charles Dickens
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Posted: 8/16/2014 9:54 PM

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NostraHOGus wrote:
Any chance Korlis has the skills to return kickoff or punts?
Kickoff Returns 2013

Rk Player                Ret   Yds   Avg     TD
1    Korliss Marshall 19    422   22.2      0

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Posted: 8/16/2014 11:41 PM

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Watching Marshall run reminds me more of Dmac while Collins reminds me more of Jones.
Of course I am wrong... cool
Keep a light on some patrols are still out! - RIP over50hog
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Posted: 8/17/2014 12:24 AM

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Watching Marshall run reminds me more of Dmac while Collins reminds me more of Jones.
Of course I am wrong... cool

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Collins runs like Emmitt Smith (and that is a compliment bc he was my idol growing up). Collins sees the field, can change direction quickly, and has an amazing ability to avoid the big hit. I don't like the comparison of Collins to Jones b/c Felix was so explosive and had the ability to cut and have explosion out of the cut. Both felix and Dmac had the extra gear that we have not seen out of Collins, yet.
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Posted: 8/17/2014 4:54 AM

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Korliss has that gear you speak of. With 3 good backs we have the advantage of deception in the backfield. Korliss can break the long ones, but even just as important he can be a decoy when defenses key on him allowing JW and/or AC break it wide open. No injuries is a key factor in the equation, even minor nagging injury that slows one of them and the other team knows it.
These guys can set up the play action passing game that plays to BA's strengths as well.


THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO FEAR IS FEAR ITSELF  -  FDR

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Posted: 8/17/2014 8:12 AM

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esward wrote:


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--- HawgnDos wrote:

Watching Marshall run reminds me more of Dmac while Collins reminds me more of Jones.
Of course I am wrong... cool

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Collins runs like Emmitt Smith (and that is a compliment bc he was my idol growing up). Collins sees the field, can change direction quickly, and has an amazing ability to avoid the big hit. I don't like the comparison of Collins to Jones b/c Felix was so explosive and had the ability to cut and have explosion out of the cut. Both felix and Dmac had the extra gear that we have not seen out of Collins, yet.
I agree with you that FJ was explosive, but he was different (in my eyes) from DMac in that he had a bit of shiftiness, elusiveness, that caused that explosiveness to be even more exciting.  DMac, and Marshall, seem to be able to see a hole, or pattern develop, then hit the thing with straight on speed and simply out run everyone.
It's difficult at best to compare anyone, but they do have similarities, all of them.
Keep a light on some patrols are still out! - RIP over50hog
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Posted: 8/17/2014 8:27 AM

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Here's a classic DMac...

Crappy video of Korliss...

A nice Felix Jones compilation...

AC3 last season...

Clearly, they all have traits of each other, that's what makes them great.  That makes me happy!
Keep a light on some patrols are still out! - RIP over50hog
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Posted: 8/17/2014 10:13 AM

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Runnin Back U!!!


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Posted: 8/17/2014 11:09 PM

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--- HawgnDos wrote:


esward wrote:


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--- HawgnDos wrote:

Watching Marshall run reminds me more of Dmac while Collins reminds me more of Jones.
Of course I am wrong... cool

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Collins runs like Emmitt Smith (and that is a compliment bc he was my idol growing up). Collins sees the field, can change direction quickly, and has an amazing ability to avoid the big hit. I don't like the comparison of Collins to Jones b/c Felix was so explosive and had the ability to cut and have explosion out of the cut. Both felix and Dmac had the extra gear that we have not seen out of Collins, yet.
I agree with you that FJ was explosive, but he was different (in my eyes) from DMac in that he had a bit of shiftiness, elusiveness, that caused that explosiveness to be even more exciting.  DMac, and Marshall, seem to be able to see a hole, or pattern develop, then hit the thing with straight on speed and simply out run everyone.
It's difficult at best to compare anyone, but they do have similarities, all of them.

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I totally agree that D-Mac and Felix were totally different backs. I just don't think that Collins has the explosiveness that felix has. Collins has better vision and is more physical than felix. The one that about felix that was so amazing was that he could go into a cut full speed and come out just as fast. D-Mac was just so smooth in everything he did and was tough as nails.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 6:45 AM

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esward wrote:


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--- HawgnDos wrote:


esward wrote:


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--- HawgnDos wrote:

Watching Marshall run reminds me more of Dmac while Collins reminds me more of Jones.
Of course I am wrong... cool

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Collins runs like Emmitt Smith (and that is a compliment bc he was my idol growing up). Collins sees the field, can change direction quickly, and has an amazing ability to avoid the big hit. I don't like the comparison of Collins to Jones b/c Felix was so explosive and had the ability to cut and have explosion out of the cut. Both felix and Dmac had the extra gear that we have not seen out of Collins, yet.
I agree with you that FJ was explosive, but he was different (in my eyes) from DMac in that he had a bit of shiftiness, elusiveness, that caused that explosiveness to be even more exciting.  DMac, and Marshall, seem to be able to see a hole, or pattern develop, then hit the thing with straight on speed and simply out run everyone.
It's difficult at best to compare anyone, but they do have similarities, all of them.

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I totally agree that D-Mac and Felix were totally different backs. I just don't think that Collins has the explosiveness that felix has. Collins has better vision and is more physical than felix. The one that about felix that was so amazing was that he could go into a cut full speed and come out just as fast. D-Mac was just so smooth in everything he did and was tough as nails.
I can agree with your Collins/Felix comparison.  DMac a was very smooth runner indeed.
Keep a light on some patrols are still out! - RIP over50hog
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Posted: 8/18/2014 7:14 AM

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I have to take a "wait and see" approach on how much we have improved, but 3 things in these articles/posts stuck out to me.

1.  We don't have a fullback yet.  I heard CBB say that in post scrimmage remarks, so I wasn't surprised to read it.
2.  BA is still BA.  Slow to recognize openings and releasing the ball late.  I realize that is a fan's view, but I'm really
     concerned about that.
3.  The lack of a down field threat.  We have what may be a very good O-Line, and 3 excellent running backs, but if
     good teams can crowd the LOS because we can't stretch the field, what the running game can accomplish will
     be limited.


bakedog19741 wrote: BA did much better today:

t.co/D92nSJLOYt


edit: more notes from the Razorbacks blog:

t.co/9c989mKHfi

Last edited 8/18/2014 7:15 AM by MultipleScoreGasms

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Posted: 8/18/2014 7:52 AM

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MultipleScoreGasms wrote: I have to take a "wait and see" approach on how much we have improved, but 3 things in these articles/posts stuck out to me.

1.  We don't have a fullback yet.  I heard CBB say that in post scrimmage remarks, so I wasn't surprised to read it.
2.  BA is still BA.  Slow to recognize openings and releasing the ball late.  I realize that is a fan's view, but I'm really
     concerned about that.
3.  The lack of a down field threat.  We have what may be a very good O-Line, and 3 excellent running backs, but if
     good teams can crowd the LOS because we can't stretch the field, what the running game can accomplish will
     be limited.


bakedog19741 wrote: BA did much better today:

t.co/D92nSJLOYt


edit: more notes from the Razorbacks blog:

t.co/9c989mKHfi
so by reading posts and articles you could tell that Brandon Allen was slow with his reads and release...sheesh.  it was a very limited scrimmage, designed not to show their hand before Auburn.  We don't know anything yet, and we won't know much until August 30.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 10:03 AM

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1. I agree with for now. We do have a few players that may be able to fill this void.
2. BA is still BA, no matter how much everyone wants to prove me wrong.
3. Downfield threat, I've said this several times: in two years we have an opportunity to have an AA at every offensive position. The three WR's that will be considered starters, Jojo Robinson (slot receiver) very quick but not super fast. CJ O'Grady (not here yet) currently a TE recruit, has best hands out of anyone coming out of HS, many scouts have said this and compare his hands to Megatron. 3. Jordan Jones (also not here, our first 2016 recruit) he has the speed to literally run past a defender. No one else on our roster or anyone we are recruiting has his speed (including the kid from NLR, remember if they aren't committed I won't say their name on here because I jinx our chances). Problem is we will have a new QB and that may kill us.


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--- MultipleScoreGasms wrote:

I have to take a "wait and see" approach on how much we have improved, but 3 things in these articles/posts stuck out to me.

1.  We don't have a fullback yet.  I heard CBB say that in post scrimmage remarks, so I wasn't surprised to read it.
2.  BA is still BA.  Slow to recognize openings and releasing the ball late.  I realize that is a fan's view, but I'm really
     concerned about that.
3.  The lack of a down field threat.  We have what may be a very good O-Line, and 3 excellent running backs, but if
     good teams can crowd the LOS because we can't stretch the field, what the running game can accomplish will
     be limited.


bakedog19741 wrote: BA did much better today:

t.co/D92nSJLOYt


edit: more notes from the Razorbacks blog:

t.co/9c989mKHfi


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Posted: 8/18/2014 12:36 PM

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No, not at all.  What I said was it was one of the things written that stood out to me.  I also said I have to take a wait and see approach, and acknowledged it was the view of a fan.  If it is a correct view, then yes, I am concerned.

hawg66 wrote:
MultipleScoreGasms wrote: I have to take a "wait and see" approach on how much we have improved, but 3 things in these articles/posts stuck out to me.

1.  We don't have a fullback yet.  I heard CBB say that in post scrimmage remarks, so I wasn't surprised to read it.
2.  BA is still BA.  Slow to recognize openings and releasing the ball late.  I realize that is a fan's view, but I'm really
     concerned about that.
3.  The lack of a down field threat.  We have what may be a very good O-Line, and 3 excellent running backs, but if
     good teams can crowd the LOS because we can't stretch the field, what the running game can accomplish will
     be limited.


bakedog19741 wrote: BA did much better today:

t.co/D92nSJLOYt


edit: more notes from the Razorbacks blog:

t.co/9c989mKHfi
so by reading posts and articles you could tell that Brandon Allen was slow with his reads and release...sheesh.  it was a very limited scrimmage, designed not to show their hand before Auburn.  We don't know anything yet, and we won't know much until August 30.

Last edited 8/18/2014 12:36 PM by MultipleScoreGasms

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