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Posted: 7/16/2014 7:35 PM

Condoleeeeza Rice 


Why in the world is this woman on the NCAA playoff selection committee?  She must be having a tryst with Bill Hancock.  By golly, this liberal Democrat demands equal time.  Nancy Pelosi's dog is a perfect candidate.  

"Hey Fido.  Oregon or Auburn?  Woof Woof.  "OK, tOSU it is".

I want Andrea Mitchell or Alex Half Witt.  They'll pick Stanford or Duke every time.... Even if they are 0-12.  It really doesn't matter to those folks.

By the way, who in the heck is Joe Tesatore?  Sounds like something you cure with Tetracycline.

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Posted: 7/16/2014 7:43 PM

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Rumors were that she make some great tackles on GW and could perform well without getting tired. And her X's and O's were top notch and gained her a lot of field position. And she performed well under great pressure.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 8:36 PM

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Nice to know that someone with some smarts, some experience as a not only a fan, but also an administrator, with political experience, is on the committee.  I think she'll bring balance and reason to what might otherwise be viewed as very partisan by outsiders.  Of course, that is if Stanford isn't undefeated or one loss.  I think they have rules for recusal for circumstances like that.
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Posted: 7/16/2014 8:41 PM

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She called that play brotha!
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Posted: 7/17/2014 1:24 AM

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I resisted the urge to post something funny/offensive after every message in this thread so far.  You people sure know how to inspire.

I am deadly serious, though, when I say that I do not think enough thought has been given to the notion that 13 people will make such a major decision.

There are recusal rules.  When the Committee is discussing  the relative merits of a team associated with a committee member, that member will be required to go have a smoke or to do whatever substitutes for smoking these days.  As a result, the person who knows the most about the team under consideration and its immediate opponents will not be in the room.

And all talking aside, the committee members will take a poll. A freaking poll.

I trust that the plethora of power ratings and computer rankings will still exist, but committee members alone will decide which resources they use for guidance.  They may even come up with their own numbers in some way.

But at the end of the day, they will take a poll.

I wonder if anybody has considered the implications of having 13 people rank 25 teams, with a view toward determining the Top Four?  If I were Jeff Long, for instance, which I am most certainly not, what would keep me from surveying the teams that were the greatest threats to SEC opponents and ranking them as far down as possible?  Then, Pat Hayden does the same thing to all the SEC teams.

Perhaps my concerns reflect some cynicism on my part, but I think there is a chance that this system could produce playoff members that would never have had a prayer under the old system.  Condoleeza Rice's Stanford could be one of those teams.

By the way, board rules prohibit full disclosure of my views about Ms. Rice and the time she spent as a Vulcan member of the neoconservative movement, other than to say that such a reference is an insult to Vulcans everywhere.

As far as her qualifications are concerned, she has an extensive background as a college football fan, and if anything, she is highly intelligent. She has also served as a professor and guest lecturer at various NCAA institutions.

She'll do fine on the committee, as long as she doesn't take the committee on any hunting trips with with Mr. Burns, umm,  I mean, V.P. Cheney. She certainly doesn't mind being the only woman in a room full of decision makers:



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Posted: 7/17/2014 7:05 AM

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She's hot man.  Whew.

Well, it is hot in here Ricky.

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Posted: 7/17/2014 8:58 AM

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As I recall, she is actually a fairly knowledgeable football fan.   She's very bright and is into football so I would at least initially suspect she'll do a fine job.   

I'll leave the politics to others.

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Posted: 7/17/2014 10:09 AM

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did anyone see Bilema's comments on this?  He had a great response.   Said he sent his entire team to here her speak, and they came away very impressed.  He also said sending the whole team might sway her if Arkansas ever comes up before the committee.  pirate
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Posted: 7/17/2014 11:08 AM

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What can go wrong?

Well, it is hot in here Ricky.

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Posted: 7/17/2014 12:00 PM

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the one thing you can be 100% certain of if this was a thread attaching some left wing woman it would have been deleted by now.

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Posted: 7/17/2014 12:15 PM

aren't all women...... 


left wing? ask the hip he knows.
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Posted: 7/17/2014 2:06 PM

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I agree, I just don't see how those qualifications (shared by millions of Americans) set her apart as uniquely qualified for this noidea

DallasRazorback wrote: As I recall, she is actually a fairly knowledgeable football fan.   She's very bright and is into football so I would at least initially suspect she'll do a fine job.   

I'll leave the politics to others.
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Posted: 7/17/2014 3:24 PM

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Let's just say that I doubt she was placed on the committee to fill any quotas.   I think she was probably vetted pretty well and it was decided she brought something to the equation.
FoxMan2099 wrote: I agree, I just don't see how those qualifications (shared by millions of Americans) set her apart as uniquely qualified for this noidea

DallasRazorback wrote: As I recall, she is actually a fairly knowledgeable football fan.   She's very bright and is into football so I would at least initially suspect she'll do a fine job.   

I'll leave the politics to others.

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Posted: 7/17/2014 3:47 PM

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Sounds like a Mexican side dish.noidea

Well, it is hot in here Ricky.

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Posted: 7/17/2014 5:09 PM

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pigified wrote: left wing? ask the hip he knows.

No.

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Posted: 7/17/2014 7:52 PM

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And I thought the the thread had been rather kind so far. biggrin

Her primary qualifications relate to her involvement with academia and her avid support oi college athletics. She is, as they say, a football nut.

I give Condy credit for being a principled person, even if I disagree with some of her principles.  She is a sharp woman.

She would give political opponents pause for concern if her supporters had the good sense to draft her.  I don't think they do, but she is one of about three people I can think of that would have a shot at derailing the HRC Cannonball.
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Posted: 7/18/2014 8:59 AM

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You wrote you couldn't say it, then you said it.

"By the way, board rules prohibit full disclosure of my views about Ms. Rice and the time she spent as a Vulcan member of the neoconservative movement, other than to say that such a reference is an insult to Vulcans everywhere."

She is black, conservative and a woman. Add to that she is brilliant.  What is not to like?
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Posted: 7/18/2014 9:41 AM

Why is anyone on the committee? 


Better yet, why do we have one? Saw a statement attributed to a committee member yesterday that said "tOSU would have to go undefeated to just be considered." Isn't that why we decided to use the computers to begin with?

As for scenario's let's use this one. The reason the BCS was killed was 2011, when Bama played LSU in a rematch. So based on yesterday, let's say the following scenario occurs in the SEC and the nation. In the B1G Wisconsin wins every game but they're first (LSU), and so on in each conference. They're best team only loses one game. However in the SEC you have (going into the SECCG): Bama vs GA (both unbeaten), LSU (who beat Wis, who won the B1G) whose only loss was to Bama, and Tennessee (who beat Big 12 conf champ OU, but lost to GA, they also play Bama this year but with the SEC's rotating schedule it's possible this scenario can show up in the future). So Bama wins the SEC championship game in triple OT by a FG against GA. Who does the playoff committee put in? Will the four SEC teams be ranked ahead of the two conf champs that a team from the SEC has already beat? This committee is a mistake they need another solution. Most of us would pick all four SEC teams, but what about conf champs? See what I'm saying. This is an even more flawed system than the BCS.


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Why in the world is this woman on the NCAA playoff selection committee?  She must be having a tryst with Bill Hancock.  By golly, this liberal Democrat demands equal time.  Nancy Pelosi's dog is a perfect candidate.  

"Hey Fido.  Oregon or Auburn?  Woof Woof.  "OK, tOSU it is".

I want Andrea Mitchell or Alex Half Witt.  They'll pick Stanford or Duke every time.... Even if they are 0-12.  It really doesn't matter to those folks.

By the way, who in the heck is Joe Tesatore?  Sounds like something you cure with Tetracycline.

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Posted: 7/18/2014 10:12 AM

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System has the potential to be flawed for sure.   I'll wait to see it in utilization before I declare it a failure.    But what would you do that is a realistic alternative? 

BCS was better than the situation before and I think this is better than the BCS but it certainly isn't perfect.
bakedog19741 wrote: Better yet, why do we have one? Saw a statement attributed to a committee member yesterday that said "tOSU would have to go undefeated to just be considered." Isn't that why we decided to use the computers to begin with?

As for scenario's let's use this one. The reason the BCS was killed was 2011, when Bama played LSU in a rematch. So based on yesterday, let's say the following scenario occurs in the SEC and the nation. In the B1G Wisconsin wins every game but they're first (LSU), and so on in each conference. They're best team only loses one game. However in the SEC you have (going into the SECCG): Bama vs GA (both unbeaten), LSU (who beat Wis, who won the B1G) whose only loss was to Bama, and Tennessee (who beat Big 12 conf champ OU, but lost to GA, they also play Bama this year but with the SEC's rotating schedule it's possible this scenario can show up in the future). So Bama wins the SEC championship game in triple OT by a FG against GA. Who does the playoff committee put in? Will the four SEC teams be ranked ahead of the two conf champs that a team from the SEC has already beat? This committee is a mistake they need another solution. Most of us would pick all four SEC teams, but what about conf champs? See what I'm saying. This is an even more flawed system than the BCS.


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Why in the world is this woman on the NCAA playoff selection committee?  She must be having a tryst with Bill Hancock.  By golly, this liberal Democrat demands equal time.  Nancy Pelosi's dog is a perfect candidate.  

"Hey Fido.  Oregon or Auburn?  Woof Woof.  "OK, tOSU it is".

I want Andrea Mitchell or Alex Half Witt.  They'll pick Stanford or Duke every time.... Even if they are 0-12.  It really doesn't matter to those folks.

By the way, who in the heck is Joe Tesatore?  Sounds like something you cure with Tetracycline.

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Posted: 7/18/2014 12:42 PM

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This would be my suggestion (actually I have two suggestions)

1. Adopt the FCS playoff system. There are more than enough Bowl games to accurately run a complete tournament.
This will not work or be accepted. Most of the analysts that played all say Div 1 athletes don't have as much time as FCS athletes so it wouldn't work. (I don't by that excuse, it seems they are all college football players, you'd have to assume they have the same amount of time). So pretty much that idea is being fought against now.

2. I believe this one would work the best. It's pretty much a guarantee that the 4 playoff teams will come from five conferences. The ACC, B1G, Big 12, PAC 12, SEC. So let them play each other in Non-conference. Say have seeds based on the prior year for example the conference champs last year were: FSU, Mich St, Baylor, Stanford, and AUB. So to use this example AUB's four OOC opponents would be FSU, Mich St, Baylor, and Stanford, the other four would play each other as well. When you go down to AR (next to last in SEC last year) our OOC would be against the other four conferences next to last: NC St, Iowa St, Illinois, and Colorado. This way you would have teams that deserve to be there and have the OOC against good conferences. If they beat each other up, let's say AUB survives unscathed and the rest have at least two losses, then an undefeated Boise St would get their chance.
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System has the potential to be flawed for sure.   I'll wait to see it in utilization before I declare it a failure.    But what would you do that is a realistic alternative? 

BCS was better than the situation before and I think this is better than the BCS but it certainly isn't perfect.
bakedog19741 wrote: Better yet, why do we have one? Saw a statement attributed to a committee member yesterday that said "tOSU would have to go undefeated to just be considered." Isn't that why we decided to use the computers to begin with?

As for scenario's let's use this one. The reason the BCS was killed was 2011, when Bama played LSU in a rematch. So based on yesterday, let's say the following scenario occurs in the SEC and the nation. In the B1G Wisconsin wins every game but they're first (LSU), and so on in each conference. They're best team only loses one game. However in the SEC you have (going into the SECCG): Bama vs GA (both unbeaten), LSU (who beat Wis, who won the B1G) whose only loss was to Bama, and Tennessee (who beat Big 12 conf champ OU, but lost to GA, they also play Bama this year but with the SEC's rotating schedule it's possible this scenario can show up in the future). So Bama wins the SEC championship game in triple OT by a FG against GA. Who does the playoff committee put in? Will the four SEC teams be ranked ahead of the two conf champs that a team from the SEC has already beat? This committee is a mistake they need another solution. Most of us would pick all four SEC teams, but what about conf champs? See what I'm saying. This is an even more flawed system than the BCS.


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--- MudvilleSwine wrote:

Why in the world is this woman on the NCAA playoff selection committee?  She must be having a tryst with Bill Hancock.  By golly, this liberal Democrat demands equal time.  Nancy Pelosi's dog is a perfect candidate.  

"Hey Fido.  Oregon or Auburn?  Woof Woof.  "OK, tOSU it is".

I want Andrea Mitchell or Alex Half Witt.  They'll pick Stanford or Duke every time.... Even if they are 0-12.  It really doesn't matter to those folks.

By the way, who in the heck is Joe Tesatore?  Sounds like something you cure with Tetracycline.

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