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Well spoken athletes,

Posted: 7/7/2014 1:22 PM

Well spoken athletes, 


O.K. was it just me or did anyone else notice how spoken the other countries athletes were when they spoke English. They sounded better than 85% of the pro athletes here in the US and its their second or third language. I just remember what Bill Cosby said a few months ago about younger people.
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Posted: 7/7/2014 6:43 PM

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I've been to several countries where English isn't the primary language and was always impressed with how well they spoke English. I've met 12-13 year old kids that spoke 6-7 languages fluently. We (my unit) even used one as an interpreter.

Oh and it's just not our pro athletes, go on Facebook or Twitter and read every post. I promise you know someone who obviously never learned to read or write while in school.


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--- WraithHog wrote:

O.K. was it just me or did anyone else notice how spoken the other countries athletes were when they spoke English. They sounded better than 85% of the pro athletes here in the US and its their second or third language. I just remember what Bill Cosby said a few months ago about younger people.

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Posted: 7/7/2014 6:56 PM

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And to me ,it is sad that some want to drop algebra and cursive writing in our schools.  A lot of people.
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Posted: 7/8/2014 7:06 AM

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Common Core curriculum is under attack in several States.  I don't know if it's deserved or not but a related news article I read claims that 40% of all high school students have to have remedial courses before tackling higher education classes.   Pretty sad commentary.






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Posted: 7/12/2014 8:47 AM

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bakedog19741 wrote: I've been to several countries where English isn't the primary language and was always impressed with how well they spoke English. I've met 12-13 year old kids that spoke 6-7 languages fluently. We (my unit) even used one as an interpreter.

Oh and it's just not our pro athletes, go on Facebook or Twitter and read every post. I promise you know someone who obviously never learned to read or write while in school.


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--- WraithHog wrote:

O.K. was it just me or did anyone else notice how spoken the other countries athletes were when they spoke English. They sounded better than 85% of the pro athletes here in the US and its their second or third language. I just remember what Bill Cosby said a few months ago about younger people.

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Home school and most private school students are very good at reading and writing because they are given an excellent education. However, the primary purpose of public schools is conformity and indoctrination which is far more important to those in charge than giving the students a good education.
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Posted: 7/12/2014 12:12 PM

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I'll be honest, my wife is a teacher. I have not met or heard any of her friends or coworkers that speak favorably about it. As a matter of fact one of her oldest and closest friends teaches in AR and they aren't allowed to speak about it, PERIOD with a parent. If they do they're fired.

I saw another comment on this particular post bashing public school. The reason why given is quite simple untrue. I challenged a parent last year to have her kids sit down next to either of mine and take any subject and go against my son. My son is extremely intelligent. I'm talking Sheldon (Big Bang theory) smart. She declined and used the excuse there are abnormalities in the setting. Once again incorrect.

The issue is a home schooled child is there working the majority of the time in a one on one setting. Their teacher is constantly there to guide and teach. Whereas in both private and public schoold there are more than one-two students. Many times there are 30+ in a single classroom. Many parents believe that a kid attends school and should learn all they need to know. If they don't understand it's the teachers fault. So let me ask you, and the lawyers and doctors on this board, how many of your parents helped you when you brought home homework and didn't completely understand it? Mine did and if they didn't understand it, my sister (who was 9 years older) did. That doesn't happen now, people don't "have time" to try to explain something to their children that they feel they shouldn't be responsible for teaching them anyway. Private school even posts advantages over public schools (smaller class sizes). And some smaller public school districts have higher avg than bigger districts because of the smaller classes.

Now another issue many do not realize, special needs children are not tested the same in countries like China/Japan and others. They also are not given many opportunities to be in private schools (parents want the same opportunities for their kids as everyone else) or home school (parents need a few hours of break time from their children). If you take the special needs children's test scores (they take the same tests as everyone else) out, the US skyrockets to first place. Even with parents screaming public school doesn't teach them right. When in truth it's the parents who don't have time for their kids that cause the issues.

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--- LongtimeHogfan wrote:

Common Core curriculum is under attack in several States.  I don't know if it's deserved or not but a related news article I read claims that 40% of all high school students have to have remedial courses before tackling higher education classes.   Pretty sad commentary.

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Last edited 7/12/2014 12:15 PM by bakedog19741

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Posted: 7/12/2014 12:48 PM

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bakedog19741 wrote:
I'll be honest, my wife is a teacher. I have not met or heard any of her friends or coworkers that speak favorably about it. As a matter of fact one of her oldest and closest friends teaches in AR and they aren't allowed to speak about it, PERIOD with a parent. If they do they're fired.

I saw another comment on this particular post bashing public school. The reason why given is quite simple untrue. I challenged a parent last year to have her kids sit down next to either of mine and take any subject and go against my son. My son is extremely intelligent. I'm talking Sheldon (Big Bang theory) smart. She declined and used the excuse there are abnormalities in the setting. Once again incorrect.

The issue is a home schooled child is there working the majority of the time in a one on one setting. Their teacher is constantly there to guide and teach. Whereas in both private and public schoold there are more than one-two students. Many times there are 30+ in a single classroom. Many parents believe that a kid attends school and should learn all they need to know. If they don't understand it's the teachers fault. So let me ask you, and the lawyers and doctors on this board, how many of your parents helped you when you brought home homework and didn't completely understand it? Mine did and if they didn't understand it, my sister (who was 9 years older) did. That doesn't happen now, people don't "have time" to try to explain something to their children that they feel they shouldn't be responsible for teaching them anyway. Private school even posts advantages over public schools (smaller class sizes). And some smaller public school districts have higher avg than bigger districts because of the smaller classes.

Now another issue many do not realize, special needs children are not tested the same in countries like China/Japan and others. They also are not given many opportunities to be in private schools (parents want the same opportunities for their kids as everyone else) or home school (parents need a few hours of break time from their children). If you take the special needs children's test scores (they take the same tests as everyone else) out, the US skyrockets to first place. Even with parents screaming public school doesn't teach them right. When in truth it's the parents who don't have time for their kids that cause the issues.

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--- LongtimeHogfan wrote:

Common Core curriculum is under attack in several States.  I don't know if it's deserved or not but a related news article I read claims that 40% of all high school students have to have remedial courses before tackling higher education classes.   Pretty sad commentary.

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I appreciate your comments regarding the Common Core curriculum in our schools.  I'd be interested in hearing what you and particularly your sweetie, think about charter schools and how you think youngsters from them stack up in their standardized testing scores compared to public school results.

We didn't have a charter school option when our son was in school but I think I would have opted for one if it had been available.


P.S.  I also think that anyone that dedicates their working lives to teaching should become automatic candidates for sainthood.






"The Bigger They Are The Harder We Call"

Last edited 7/12/2014 12:54 PM by LongtimeHogfan

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Posted: 7/12/2014 5:42 PM

Definitions 


Well spoken athlete - white dude that goes to Duke
Insufferable ahole - white dude that goes to Duke

Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about

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Posted: 7/12/2014 6:17 PM

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Some of those Dookies are fluent in Tibetan Yak.


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Well spoken athlete - white dude that goes to Duke
Insufferable ahole - white dude that goes to Duke

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Posted: 7/12/2014 9:11 PM

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Michael Jordan.  Same state, not a white dude.  Don't  think he is an ahole, but I could be wrong.
MudvilleSwine wrote: Well spoken athlete - white dude that goes to Duke
Insufferable ahole - white dude that goes to Duke
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Posted: 7/13/2014 11:12 AM

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I appreciate your comments regarding the Common Core curriculum in our schools.  I'd be interested in hearing what you and particularly your sweetie, think about charter schools and how you think youngsters from them stack up in their standardized testing scores compared to public school results.

We didn't have a charter school option when our son was in school but I think I would have opted for one if it had been available.


P.S.  I also think that anyone that dedicates their working lives to teaching should become automatic candidates for sainthood.
You do realize that not-for-profit charter schools are public schools?  The difference is that a charter school has a cadre of interested/invested folks that have written a "charter," or plan by which the school will operate.  The charter may include alternative instructional and/or assessment methods.
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Posted: 7/13/2014 12:24 PM

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dirthog wrote:
I appreciate your comments regarding the Common Core curriculum in our schools.  I'd be interested in hearing what you and particularly your sweetie, think about charter schools and how you think youngsters from them stack up in their standardized testing scores compared to public school results.

We didn't have a charter school option when our son was in school but I think I would have opted for one if it had been available.


P.S.  I also think that anyone that dedicates their working lives to teaching should become automatic candidates for sainthood.
You do realize that not-for-profit charter schools are public schools?  The difference is that a charter school has a cadre of interested/invested folks that have written a "charter," or plan by which the school will operate.  The charter may include alternative instructional and/or assessment methods.

I'm learning more about them all the time.  biggrin






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