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Wow..stick a fork in the Heat

Posted: 6/12/2014 10:38 PM

Wow..stick a fork in the Heat 


'cause they are DONE.
Near miraculous turnaround since game 2. Why? One word: Coaching. San Antonio has a Hall of Famer doing probably his best work ever. He can make the old dogs hunt and the young dogs bite. Anyone could coach the Heat to the playoffs. If Cleveland ends up reeling in Calipari, look for King James to seriously consider going home to play for a real coach.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 6:32 AM

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Agree.  Spoelstra is not an NBA coach.  Did the ownership think ANYONE could drive that bus and win?  Perhaps they should hire John L Smith...  noidea


squirrelhog wrote: 'cause they are DONE.
Near miraculous turnaround since game 2. Why? One word: Coaching. San Antonio has a Hall of Famer doing probably his best work ever. He can make the old dogs hunt and the young dogs bite. Anyone could coach the Heat to the playoffs. If Cleveland ends up reeling in Calipari, look for King James to seriously consider going home to play for a real coach.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 8:26 AM

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I don't think Cal is a "real coach" as far as the NBA goes.   In fact, most think he's rather average as a tactician but a fantastic recruiter.  I doubt Cal goes to the NBA but if he does, I'd bet he is a near .500 coach and heads back college within 3 years.
squirrelhog wrote: 'cause they are DONE.
Near miraculous turnaround since game 2. Why? One word: Coaching. San Antonio has a Hall of Famer doing probably his best work ever. He can make the old dogs hunt and the young dogs bite. Anyone could coach the Heat to the playoffs. If Cleveland ends up reeling in Calipari, look for King James to seriously consider going home to play for a real coach.

Go Hogs.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 9:07 AM

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I don't think the Heat are losing because of bad coaching.  Good coaching on the San Antonio bench has more to do to do with the Heat's problems.

I'm beginning to think that both these teams spent an entire season believing that the wrong team won the championship last year.

I think part of what we are seeing is the inevitable result of spending so much money on the top three players, particularly when one of those players is in the twilight of his career.

Let's face it.  Dwayne Wade, a future HOF member, who does not appear to be injured, looked as if he never woke up from his pre-game nap.

Meanwhile, Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard, who make $5m a year between them, look like they could form the nucleus of a contender.  Leonard is 22 years old.  (Michael Qualls should study everything Leonard does, beginning on the defensive end of the floor. He has the raw materials to do similar things with the right development.  Any chance he's still growing?  Leonard is 6'7").

I would not be surprised to see the Heat make a series of it yet, but if they don't, I think Lebron should look at Kobe Bryant and see what happens to superstars who hang on for the same team too long.

Everybody on the Heat  has the right to opt out after this year.  I'm guessing that the only way the team stays together is if D-Wade takes a massive paycut to allow the Heat to bring in Carmello Anthony.  Short of that, I think Lebron's days in Miami are over.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 9:24 AM

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NostraHOGus wrote: I don't think the Heat are losing because of bad coaching.  Good coaching on the San Antonio bench has more to do to do with the Heat's problems.

I'm beginning to think that both these teams spent an entire season believing that the wrong team won the championship last year.

I think part of what we are seeing is the inevitable result of spending so much money on the top three players, particularly when one of those players is in the twilight of his career.

Let's face it.  Dwayne Wade, a future HOF member, who does not appear to be injured, looked as if he never woke up from his pre-game nap.

Meanwhile, Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard, who make $5m a year between them, look like they could form the nucleus of a contender.  Leonard is 22 years old.  (Michael Qualls should study everything Leonard does, beginning on the defensive end of the floor. He has the raw materials to do similar things with the right development.  Any chance he's still growing?  Leonard is 6'7").

I would not be surprised to see the Heat make a series of it yet, but if they don't, I think Lebron should look at Kobe Bryant and see what happens to superstars who hang on for the same team too long.

Everybody on the Heat  has the right to opt out after this year.  I'm guessing that the only way the team stays together is if D-Wade takes a massive paycut to allow the Heat to bring in Carmello Anthony.  Short of that, I think Lebron's days in Miami are over.
Mellow is a team killer.   He's immensely talented but I think bringing him to the Heat will be subtraction by addition.    And since I don't care for the Heat, I'm all for it.

Go Hogs.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 9:55 AM

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DallasRazorback wrote:
NostraHOGus wrote: I don't think the Heat are losing because of bad coaching.  Good coaching on the San Antonio bench has more to do to do with the Heat's problems.

I'm beginning to think that both these teams spent an entire season believing that the wrong team won the championship last year.

I think part of what we are seeing is the inevitable result of spending so much money on the top three players, particularly when one of those players is in the twilight of his career.

Let's face it.  Dwayne Wade, a future HOF member, who does not appear to be injured, looked as if he never woke up from his pre-game nap.

Meanwhile, Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard, who make $5m a year between them, look like they could form the nucleus of a contender.  Leonard is 22 years old.  (Michael Qualls should study everything Leonard does, beginning on the defensive end of the floor. He has the raw materials to do similar things with the right development.  Any chance he's still growing?  Leonard is 6'7").

I would not be surprised to see the Heat make a series of it yet, but if they don't, I think Lebron should look at Kobe Bryant and see what happens to superstars who hang on for the same team too long.

Everybody on the Heat  has the right to opt out after this year.  I'm guessing that the only way the team stays together is if D-Wade takes a massive paycut to allow the Heat to bring in Carmello Anthony.  Short of that, I think Lebron's days in Miami are over.
Mellow is a team killer.   He's immensely talented but I think bringing him to the Heat will be subtraction by addition.    And since I don't care for the Heat, I'm all for it.
I don't think you will recognize the Heat after this season is over.  The question we should be asking:  Is there an NBA team that has the pieces in place to be an instant contender with the addition of Lebron's services?
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Posted: 6/13/2014 9:57 AM

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I think we are seeing the results of a team sticking together and working as a unit under the tutelage of a Hall of Fame Coach.  It is the same reason mid-major college teams have made runs in the NCAA. 

All of this trading, re-building, and one-and-done stuff can only take a team so far.  When a well meshed team plays together as the Spurs have done the last two games... we hear comments like "clinic" and "unselfishness": and "playing as a team" over and over and over again.  It is the winning formula.  Of course it takes a lot of talent too. 

It reminds me of when the Celtics were so dominate. Larry Bird and company made guys like Fred Roberts look like all-stars (not that Leonard and Diaw are Fred Roberts types, but Splitter and Bonner might be that caliber).  Veteran Teams with a good coach that they will rally around... wow, it is just plain fun to watch.  I am enjoying using the Spurs to show my two boys how it is done! 

My other soap-box is:

When I saw LeBron James go on his tear last might (cut the lead from 20 something to 14 or so) and then I saw him look at his teammates and point with his thumbs to his back (saying "get on my back"), I shook my head in complete disbelief and thought to myself, "this thing is over!" 

In the Western Conference Finals, I saw Westbrook do the exact same thing, just before the Spurs put them away with a full team effort!

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Posted: 6/13/2014 11:46 AM

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There are actually 2 that I've heard of. The Bulls, if Rose can recover, would be almost impossible to beat with James. The other team is Cleveland. Wouldn't that be interesting


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DallasRazorback wrote:
NostraHOGus wrote: I don't think the Heat are losing because of bad coaching.  Good coaching on the San Antonio bench has more to do to do with the Heat's problems.

I'm beginning to think that both these teams spent an entire season believing that the wrong team won the championship last year.

I think part of what we are seeing is the inevitable result of spending so much money on the top three players, particularly when one of those players is in the twilight of his career.

Let's face it.  Dwayne Wade, a future HOF member, who does not appear to be injured, looked as if he never woke up from his pre-game nap.

Meanwhile, Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard, who make $5m a year between them, look like they could form the nucleus of a contender.  Leonard is 22 years old.  (Michael Qualls should study everything Leonard does, beginning on the defensive end of the floor. He has the raw materials to do similar things with the right development.  Any chance he's still growing?  Leonard is 6'7").

I would not be surprised to see the Heat make a series of it yet, but if they don't, I think Lebron should look at Kobe Bryant and see what happens to superstars who hang on for the same team too long.

Everybody on the Heat  has the right to opt out after this year.  I'm guessing that the only way the team stays together is if D-Wade takes a massive paycut to allow the Heat to bring in Carmello Anthony.  Short of that, I think Lebron's days in Miami are over.
Mellow is a team killer.   He's immensely talented but I think bringing him to the Heat will be subtraction by addition.    And since I don't care for the Heat, I'm all for it.
I don't think you will recognize the Heat after this season is over.  The question we should be asking:  Is there an NBA team that has the pieces in place to be an instant contender with the addition of Lebron's services?

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Posted: 6/13/2014 12:20 PM

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You may well be right about that.   
NostraHOGus wrote:
DallasRazorback wrote:
NostraHOGus wrote: I don't think the Heat are losing because of bad coaching.  Good coaching on the San Antonio bench has more to do to do with the Heat's problems.

I'm beginning to think that both these teams spent an entire season believing that the wrong team won the championship last year.

I think part of what we are seeing is the inevitable result of spending so much money on the top three players, particularly when one of those players is in the twilight of his career.

Let's face it.  Dwayne Wade, a future HOF member, who does not appear to be injured, looked as if he never woke up from his pre-game nap.

Meanwhile, Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard, who make $5m a year between them, look like they could form the nucleus of a contender.  Leonard is 22 years old.  (Michael Qualls should study everything Leonard does, beginning on the defensive end of the floor. He has the raw materials to do similar things with the right development.  Any chance he's still growing?  Leonard is 6'7").

I would not be surprised to see the Heat make a series of it yet, but if they don't, I think Lebron should look at Kobe Bryant and see what happens to superstars who hang on for the same team too long.

Everybody on the Heat  has the right to opt out after this year.  I'm guessing that the only way the team stays together is if D-Wade takes a massive paycut to allow the Heat to bring in Carmello Anthony.  Short of that, I think Lebron's days in Miami are over.
Mellow is a team killer.   He's immensely talented but I think bringing him to the Heat will be subtraction by addition.    And since I don't care for the Heat, I'm all for it.
I don't think you will recognize the Heat after this season is over.  The question we should be asking:  Is there an NBA team that has the pieces in place to be an instant contender with the addition of Lebron's services?

Go Hogs.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 3:50 PM

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NostraHOGus wrote: I don't think the Heat are losing because of bad coaching.  Good coaching on the San Antonio bench has more to do to do with the Heat's problems.

I'm beginning to think that both these teams spent an entire season believing that the wrong team won the championship last year.

I think part of what we are seeing is the inevitable result of spending so much money on the top three players, particularly when one of those players is in the twilight of his career.

Let's face it.  Dwayne Wade, a future HOF member, who does not appear to be injured, looked as if he never woke up from his pre-game nap.

Meanwhile, Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard, who make $5m a year between them, look like they could form the nucleus of a contender.  Leonard is 22 years old.  (Michael Qualls should study everything Leonard does, beginning on the defensive end of the floor. He has the raw materials to do similar things with the right development.  Any chance he's still growing?  Leonard is 6'7").

I would not be surprised to see the Heat make a series of it yet, but if they don't, I think Lebron should look at Kobe Bryant and see what happens to superstars who hang on for the same team too long.

Everybody on the Heat  has the right to opt out after this year.  I'm guessing that the only way the team stays together is if D-Wade takes a massive paycut to allow the Heat to bring in Carmello Anthony.  Short of that, I think Lebron's days in Miami are over.
I highly doubt that anyone on the Miami team thought the wrong team won last yeareek1.
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Posted: 6/13/2014 3:59 PM

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I'm not saying the heat didn't think they deserved it at the time.  But Miami knows full well how close San Antonio came to putting the series away last year in game 6, up by 5 with 28 seconds left.  Ray Allen, God bless him, bailed the Heat out, and San Antonio still came withing a layup of winning at Miami in game 7.

Last year, it was Danny Green.  This year, it's Leonard and Diaw.  San Antonio is getting much better production from the second tier players.

Instead of feeling bitter about, I think San Antonio believed the better team lost, and based upon their performance in game 4, I think Miami has doubts that they are good enough to beat San Antonio right now.

scootriteby wrote:
NostraHOGus wrote: I don't think the Heat are losing because of bad coaching.  Good coaching on the San Antonio bench has more to do to do with the Heat's problems.

I'm beginning to think that both these teams spent an entire season believing that the wrong team won the championship last year.

I think part of what we are seeing is the inevitable result of spending so much money on the top three players, particularly when one of those players is in the twilight of his career.

Let's face it.  Dwayne Wade, a future HOF member, who does not appear to be injured, looked as if he never woke up from his pre-game nap.

Meanwhile, Boris Diaw and Kawhi Leonard, who make $5m a year between them, look like they could form the nucleus of a contender.  Leonard is 22 years old.  (Michael Qualls should study everything Leonard does, beginning on the defensive end of the floor. He has the raw materials to do similar things with the right development.  Any chance he's still growing?  Leonard is 6'7").

I would not be surprised to see the Heat make a series of it yet, but if they don't, I think Lebron should look at Kobe Bryant and see what happens to superstars who hang on for the same team too long.

Everybody on the Heat  has the right to opt out after this year.  I'm guessing that the only way the team stays together is if D-Wade takes a massive paycut to allow the Heat to bring in Carmello Anthony.  Short of that, I think Lebron's days in Miami are over.
I highly doubt that anyone on the Miami team thought the wrong team won last yeareek1.
"Someone once told me, 'Time is a flat circle.' Everything we've ever done or will do, we're gonna do over and over and over again."

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Posted: 6/13/2014 4:03 PM

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I see your point, but I am also seeing talent come off the bench for San Antonio that Miami isn't showing.  Van Gundy said it best when he described the players in San Antonio's rotation as being able to do two things well, shoot and pass. 

Mike Anderson would be the first to tell you that offensive strategy is much more effective when the guys on the floor can all pass and shoot.  It makes every player an offensive weapon.
RamblinRazorWreck wrote: I think we are seeing the results of a team sticking together and working as a unit under the tutelage of a Hall of Fame Coach.  It is the same reason mid-major college teams have made runs in the NCAA. 

All of this trading, re-building, and one-and-done stuff can only take a team so far.  When a well meshed team plays together as the Spurs have done the last two games... we hear comments like "clinic" and "unselfishness": and "playing as a team" over and over and over again.  It is the winning formula.  Of course it takes a lot of talent too. 

It reminds me of when the Celtics were so dominate. Larry Bird and company made guys like Fred Roberts look like all-stars (not that Leonard and Diaw are Fred Roberts types, but Splitter and Bonner might be that caliber).  Veteran Teams with a good coach that they will rally around... wow, it is just plain fun to watch.  I am enjoying using the Spurs to show my two boys how it is done! 

My other soap-box is:

When I saw LeBron James go on his tear last might (cut the lead from 20 something to 14 or so) and then I saw him look at his teammates and point with his thumbs to his back (saying "get on my back"), I shook my head in complete disbelief and thought to myself, "this thing is over!" 

In the Western Conference Finals, I saw Westbrook do the exact same thing, just before the Spurs put them away with a full team effort!
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Posted: 6/13/2014 8:26 PM

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Exactly right...

RamblinRazorWreck wrote: I think we are seeing the results of a team sticking together and working as a unit under the tutelage of a Hall of Fame Coach.  It is the same reason mid-major college teams have made runs in the NCAA. 

All of this trading, re-building, and one-and-done stuff can only take a team so far.  When a well meshed team plays together as the Spurs have done the last two games... we hear comments like "clinic" and "unselfishness": and "playing as a team" over and over and over again.  It is the winning formula.  Of course it takes a lot of talent too. 

It reminds me of when the Celtics were so dominate. Larry Bird and company made guys like Fred Roberts look like all-stars (not that Leonard and Diaw are Fred Roberts types, but Splitter and Bonner might be that caliber).  Veteran Teams with a good coach that they will rally around... wow, it is just plain fun to watch.  I am enjoying using the Spurs to show my two boys how it is done! 

My other soap-box is:

When I saw LeBron James go on his tear last might (cut the lead from 20 something to 14 or so) and then I saw him look at his teammates and point with his thumbs to his back (saying "get on my back"), I shook my head in complete disbelief and thought to myself, "this thing is over!" 

In the Western Conference Finals, I saw Westbrook do the exact same thing, just before the Spurs put them away with a full team effort!
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Posted: 6/13/2014 9:16 PM

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Funny you should mention Michael Qualls. After that putback dunk last night I thought maybe Leonard had been studying Qualls. cool
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Posted: 6/14/2014 10:37 AM

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Really? I don't like him but have always been impressed with his in-game coaching. The best in the SEC is Billy D in my humble opinion, but Cal really looks like he knows his Xs and Os. 

DallasRazorback wrote: I don't think Cal is a "real coach" as far as the NBA goes.   In fact, most think he's rather average as a tactician but a fantastic recruiter.  I doubt Cal goes to the NBA but if he does, I'd bet he is a near .500 coach and heads back college within 3 years.
squirrelhog wrote: 'cause they are DONE.
Near miraculous turnaround since game 2. Why? One word: Coaching. San Antonio has a Hall of Famer doing probably his best work ever. He can make the old dogs hunt and the young dogs bite. Anyone could coach the Heat to the playoffs. If Cleveland ends up reeling in Calipari, look for King James to seriously consider going home to play for a real coach.
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Posted: 6/14/2014 10:41 AM

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Well, IDK, yeah it's right, but let's keep in mind the Heat's slap-a-team-together method has resulted in two rings and 4 straight trips to the Finals . . . 

HawgnDos wrote: Exactly right...

RamblinRazorWreck wrote: I think we are seeing the results of a team sticking together and working as a unit under the tutelage of a Hall of Fame Coach.  It is the same reason mid-major college teams have made runs in the NCAA. 

All of this trading, re-building, and one-and-done stuff can only take a team so far.  When a well meshed team plays together as the Spurs have done the last two games... we hear comments like "clinic" and "unselfishness": and "playing as a team" over and over and over again.  It is the winning formula.  Of course it takes a lot of talent too. 

It reminds me of when the Celtics were so dominate. Larry Bird and company made guys like Fred Roberts look like all-stars (not that Leonard and Diaw are Fred Roberts types, but Splitter and Bonner might be that caliber).  Veteran Teams with a good coach that they will rally around... wow, it is just plain fun to watch.  I am enjoying using the Spurs to show my two boys how it is done! 

My other soap-box is:

When I saw LeBron James go on his tear last might (cut the lead from 20 something to 14 or so) and then I saw him look at his teammates and point with his thumbs to his back (saying "get on my back"), I shook my head in complete disbelief and thought to myself, "this thing is over!" 

In the Western Conference Finals, I saw Westbrook do the exact same thing, just before the Spurs put them away with a full team effort!
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Billy D is talking to the NBA too, Cal just signed an extension. Hope Billy D goes to the league. Allen may return home, and rumor is Monk may be leaning toward the Swamp, if Billy D leaves you have to think we get both.
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Really? I don't like him but have always been impressed with his in-game coaching. The best in the SEC is Billy D in my humble opinion, but Cal really looks like he knows his Xs and Os. 

DallasRazorback wrote: I don't think Cal is a "real coach" as far as the NBA goes.   In fact, most think he's rather average as a tactician but a fantastic recruiter.  I doubt Cal goes to the NBA but if he does, I'd bet he is a near .500 coach and heads back college within 3 years.
squirrelhog wrote: 'cause they are DONE.
Near miraculous turnaround since game 2. Why? One word: Coaching. San Antonio has a Hall of Famer doing probably his best work ever. He can make the old dogs hunt and the young dogs bite. Anyone could coach the Heat to the playoffs. If Cleveland ends up reeling in Calipari, look for King James to seriously consider going home to play for a real coach.


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Posted: 6/14/2014 4:52 PM

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Yes, I agree, because pure talent can take you a long, long way and sometimes is good enough to beat everyone else.


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Well, IDK, yeah it's right, but let's keep in mind the Heat's slap-a-team-together method has resulted in two rings and 4 straight trips to the Finals . . . 

HawgnDos wrote: Exactly right...

RamblinRazorWreck wrote: I think we are seeing the results of a team sticking together and working as a unit under the tutelage of a Hall of Fame Coach.  It is the same reason mid-major college teams have made runs in the NCAA. 

All of this trading, re-building, and one-and-done stuff can only take a team so far.  When a well meshed team plays together as the Spurs have done the last two games... we hear comments like "clinic" and "unselfishness": and "playing as a team" over and over and over again.  It is the winning formula.  Of course it takes a lot of talent too. 

It reminds me of when the Celtics were so dominate. Larry Bird and company made guys like Fred Roberts look like all-stars (not that Leonard and Diaw are Fred Roberts types, but Splitter and Bonner might be that caliber).  Veteran Teams with a good coach that they will rally around... wow, it is just plain fun to watch.  I am enjoying using the Spurs to show my two boys how it is done! 

My other soap-box is:

When I saw LeBron James go on his tear last might (cut the lead from 20 something to 14 or so) and then I saw him look at his teammates and point with his thumbs to his back (saying "get on my back"), I shook my head in complete disbelief and thought to myself, "this thing is over!" 

In the Western Conference Finals, I saw Westbrook do the exact same thing, just before the Spurs put them away with a full team effort!


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Posted: 6/14/2014 6:21 PM

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But sometimes that haughty attitude comes back to bite your backside.  And, that team was once a stellar group but Wade has been injured a lot of the season and held out for the playoffs, but it hasn't seemed to help any.  The old Bulls of Jordan/Pippen had several that rotated in and out over the years but kept the nucleus together.  I'm not sure who is what on that "team".

FoxMan2099 wrote: Well, IDK, yeah it's right, but let's keep in mind the Heat's slap-a-team-together method has resulted in two rings and 4 straight trips to the Finals . . . 

HawgnDos wrote: Exactly right...

RamblinRazorWreck wrote: I think we are seeing the results of a team sticking together and working as a unit under the tutelage of a Hall of Fame Coach.  It is the same reason mid-major college teams have made runs in the NCAA. 

All of this trading, re-building, and one-and-done stuff can only take a team so far.  When a well meshed team plays together as the Spurs have done the last two games... we hear comments like "clinic" and "unselfishness": and "playing as a team" over and over and over again.  It is the winning formula.  Of course it takes a lot of talent too. 

It reminds me of when the Celtics were so dominate. Larry Bird and company made guys like Fred Roberts look like all-stars (not that Leonard and Diaw are Fred Roberts types, but Splitter and Bonner might be that caliber).  Veteran Teams with a good coach that they will rally around... wow, it is just plain fun to watch.  I am enjoying using the Spurs to show my two boys how it is done! 

My other soap-box is:

When I saw LeBron James go on his tear last might (cut the lead from 20 something to 14 or so) and then I saw him look at his teammates and point with his thumbs to his back (saying "get on my back"), I shook my head in complete disbelief and thought to myself, "this thing is over!" 

In the Western Conference Finals, I saw Westbrook do the exact same thing, just before the Spurs put them away with a full team effort!
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Posted: 6/14/2014 7:04 PM

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When Melo shows up that attitude will get worse. They'll think they're unbeatable, but first time they have issues he will destroy the team from the inside.


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But sometimes that haughty attitude comes back to bite your backside.  And, that team was once a stellar group but Wade has been injured a lot of the season and held out for the playoffs, but it hasn't seemed to help any.  The old Bulls of Jordan/Pippen had several that rotated in and out over the years but kept the nucleus together.  I'm not sure who is what on that "team".

FoxMan2099 wrote: Well, IDK, yeah it's right, but let's keep in mind the Heat's slap-a-team-together method has resulted in two rings and 4 straight trips to the Finals . . . 

HawgnDos wrote: Exactly right...

RamblinRazorWreck wrote: I think we are seeing the results of a team sticking together and working as a unit under the tutelage of a Hall of Fame Coach.  It is the same reason mid-major college teams have made runs in the NCAA. 

All of this trading, re-building, and one-and-done stuff can only take a team so far.  When a well meshed team plays together as the Spurs have done the last two games... we hear comments like "clinic" and "unselfishness": and "playing as a team" over and over and over again.  It is the winning formula.  Of course it takes a lot of talent too. 

It reminds me of when the Celtics were so dominate. Larry Bird and company made guys like Fred Roberts look like all-stars (not that Leonard and Diaw are Fred Roberts types, but Splitter and Bonner might be that caliber).  Veteran Teams with a good coach that they will rally around... wow, it is just plain fun to watch.  I am enjoying using the Spurs to show my two boys how it is done! 

My other soap-box is:

When I saw LeBron James go on his tear last might (cut the lead from 20 something to 14 or so) and then I saw him look at his teammates and point with his thumbs to his back (saying "get on my back"), I shook my head in complete disbelief and thought to myself, "this thing is over!" 

In the Western Conference Finals, I saw Westbrook do the exact same thing, just before the Spurs put them away with a full team effort!


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