I think this wrong young men should still be able to look around, to make sure its the right choice
http://fansided.com/2013/02/13/texas-longhorns-are -latest-to-ban-commits-from-visiting-other-schools /

Well, its still a free country, at least for a little while longer.

CMB instituted a policy that if you are committed to Texas you cannot take visits elsewhere.
Think that will stop him from recruiting other schools commits, and bringing them in for official visits? I have no issue with schools instituting this policy, but Mack Brown doing this? 
I think Mack Brown is one of the biggest hypocrites in college football coaching. JMO

WraithHog wrote: I think this wrong young men should still be able to look around, to make sure its the right choice
http://fansided.com/2013/02/13...g-other-schools /

fixed the link for you.

TIGER8888 wrote: CMB instituted a policy that if you are committed to Texas you cannot take visits elsewhere.
Think that will stop him from recruiting other schools commits, and bringing them in for official visits? I have no issue with schools instituting this policy, but Mack Brown doing this? 
I think Mack Brown is one of the biggest hypocrites in college football coaching. JMO

8888, what's with all the Mack love? 

TIGER8888 wrote: CMB instituted a policy that if you are committed to Texas you cannot take visits elsewhere.
Think that will stop him from recruiting other schools commits, and bringing them in for official visits? I have no issue with schools instituting this policy, but Mack Brown doing this? 
I think Mack Brown is one of the biggest hypocrites in college football coaching. JMO

It's like do what I say not what I do kinda thing.

worldseriesofPorker wrote:

TIGER8888 wrote: CMB instituted a policy that if you are committed to Texas you cannot take visits elsewhere.
Think that will stop him from recruiting other schools commits, and bringing them in for official visits? I have no issue with schools instituting this policy, but Mack Brown doing this? 
I think Mack Brown is one of the biggest hypocrites in college football coaching. JMO

8888, what's with all the Mack love? 

LOL, CMB is fixing to get hit with an LSU hammer in recruiting and he isnt going to like it but i will

50, you hit the nail on the head

Make that an SEC hammer.

TIGER8888 wrote: CMB instituted a policy that if you are committed to Texas you cannot take visits elsewhere.
Think that will stop him from recruiting other schools commits, and bringing them in for official visits? I have no issue with schools instituting this policy, but Mack Brown doing this? 
I think Mack Brown is one of the biggest hypocrites in college football coaching. JMO

Not a TX fan, but I understand.  If a kid commits to your program, but continues to look around, why should you obligate yourself to hold a spot?  You should look too.  The last thing you should do is fail to meet a need because a kid that committed to you bails at the last minute.  If the kid isn't sure, he shouldn't commit.  It's pretty simple.

Also not a Texas fan (uh, that's putting it mildly), but I understand the fairness in the policy as well. I'm not sure it needs to be made a publicly stated policy, but okay. It seems to me a bit better to leave it to the coaches' discretion when offering and accepting a commit.

What will be the expected result? I would think a few more kids will wait longer to commit in order to take their visits, even if there is no guaranteed slot.

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TIGER8888 wrote: CMB instituted a policy that if you are committed to Texas you cannot take visits elsewhere.
Think that will stop him from recruiting other schools commits, and bringing them in for official visits? I have no issue with schools instituting this policy, but Mack Brown doing this? 
I think Mack Brown is one of the biggest hypocrites in college football coaching. JMO

Not a TX fan, but I understand.  If a kid commits to your program, but continues to look around, why should you obligate yourself to hold a spot?  You should look too.  The last thing you should do is fail to meet a need because a kid that committed to you bails at the last minute.  If the kid isn't sure, he shouldn't commit.  It's pretty simple.

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The problem I see is they get good players but have a poor coach.

MultipleScoreGasms wrote:

TIGER8888 wrote: CMB instituted a policy that if you are committed to Texas you cannot take visits elsewhere.
Think that will stop him from recruiting other schools commits, and bringing them in for official visits? I have no issue with schools instituting this policy, but Mack Brown doing this? 
I think Mack Brown is one of the biggest hypocrites in college football coaching. JMO

Not a TX fan, but I understand.  If a kid commits to your program, but continues to look around, why should you obligate yourself to hold a spot?  You should look too.  The last thing you should do is fail to meet a need because a kid that committed to you bails at the last minute.  If the kid isn't sure, he shouldn't commit.  It's pretty simple.

Like basically all other coaches, Mack doesn't "hold a spot" for commits. He'll drop 'em like a bad habit if he can get someone better (TX high school coaches are starting to show signs of weariness with the Whorns).

The joke of all this is that TX thinks they are actually scouting, finding, and getting commits from the best players in the first place. They're not!!! Mack is under heat right now b/c he stiffened his neck and refused to give offers to the last 2 Heisman trophy winners, RG3 and Johnny Friggin' Football (Johny HeisManziel). 

TCU stockpiles 3* players that went into TX and laid a defensive butt kicking on Bevo this year. How is that possible with all that talent at Bevo U? Easy, Patterson is a better coach and better scout than anyone at TX.

A&M seems poised to leave TX in the dust---lightning in a bottle---right coach, right QB, and right system, a wide open offense being mimicked by large high schools in all the TX metropolises. 

Mack's policy, "If you look, I'll pull," is arrogant and assumes they (A) have the know-how to find better players, and (B) have the brand name to get any player they want (it's no longer a given).

WraithHog wrote: I think this wrong young men should still be able to look around, to make sure its the right choice
http://fansided.com/2013/02/13/texas-longhorns-are -latest-to-ban-commits-from-visiting-other-schools /

 texas  - OH how the mighty have fallen

FoxMan2099 wrote: The joke of all this is that TX thinks they are actually scouting, finding, and getting commits from the best players in the first place. They're not!!! Mack is under heat right now b/c he stiffened his neck and refused to give offers to the last 2 Heisman trophy winners, RG3 and Johnny Friggin' Football (Johny HeisManziel). 

TCU stockpiles 3* players that went into TX and laid a defensive butt kicking on Bevo this year. How is that possible with all that talent at Bevo U? Easy, Patterson is a better coach and better scout than anyone at TX.

A&M seems poised to leave TX in the dust---lightning in a bottle---right coach, right QB, and right system, a wide open offense being mimicked by large high schools in all the TX metropolises. 

Mack's policy, "If you look, I'll pull," is arrogant and assumes they (A) have the know-how to find better players, and (B) have the brand name to get any player they want (it's no longer a given).

I agree with your post.   Might add that it also shows some FEAR that the horns might not wind up as the best program in the eyes of the commit.

I don't know guys.  I understand that recruits flip all the time.  We certainly tried to pull that off with multiple recruits, and were successful with some.  I'm sure we will lose some of those battles too.  It's a way of life in the NCAA sports world.  However, if I was a coach, I just don't see me guaranteeing a recruit a spot if the recruit did not guarantee me that he would be there to take that spot.  Of course the other side of that coin is, if I expect a kid to honor his committment to me, I better honor mine to him.

Pokey Pig wrote:

FoxMan2099 wrote: The joke of all this is that TX thinks they are actually scouting, finding, and getting commits from the best players in the first place. They're not!!! Mack is under heat right now b/c he stiffened his neck and refused to give offers to the last 2 Heisman trophy winners, RG3 and Johnny Friggin' Football (Johny HeisManziel). 

TCU stockpiles 3* players that went into TX and laid a defensive butt kicking on Bevo this year. How is that possible with all that talent at Bevo U? Easy, Patterson is a better coach and better scout than anyone at TX.

A&M seems poised to leave TX in the dust---lightning in a bottle---right coach, right QB, and right system, a wide open offense being mimicked by large high schools in all the TX metropolises. 

Mack's policy, "If you look, I'll pull," is arrogant and assumes they (A) have the know-how to find better players, and (B) have the brand name to get any player they want (it's no longer a given).

I agree with your post.   Might add that it also shows some FEAR that the horns might not wind up as the best program in the eyes of the commit.

But Mack doesn't (nor does any other coach) "guarantee" a spot to any commit with any real sincerity. Coaches just don't do that. Mack will drop a 4* in a heartbeat if he can flip a 5* from OU or A&M.

MultipleScoreGasms wrote: I don't know guys.  I understand that recruits flip all the time.  We certainly tried to pull that off with multiple recruits, and were successful with some.  I'm sure we will lose some of those battles too.  It's a way of life in the NCAA sports world.  However, if I was a coach, I just don't see me guaranteeing a recruit a spot if the recruit did not guarantee me that he would be there to take that spot.  Of course the other side of that coin is, if I expect a kid to honor his committment to me, I better honor mine to him.

Pokey Pig wrote:

FoxMan2099 wrote: The joke of all this is that TX thinks they are actually scouting, finding, and getting commits from the best players in the first place. They're not!!! Mack is under heat right now b/c he stiffened his neck and refused to give offers to the last 2 Heisman trophy winners, RG3 and Johnny Friggin' Football (Johny HeisManziel). 

TCU stockpiles 3* players that went into TX and laid a defensive butt kicking on Bevo this year. How is that possible with all that talent at Bevo U? Easy, Patterson is a better coach and better scout than anyone at TX.

A&M seems poised to leave TX in the dust---lightning in a bottle---right coach, right QB, and right system, a wide open offense being mimicked by large high schools in all the TX metropolises. 

Mack's policy, "If you look, I'll pull," is arrogant and assumes they (A) have the know-how to find better players, and (B) have the brand name to get any player they want (it's no longer a given).

I agree with your post.   Might add that it also shows some FEAR that the horns might not wind up as the best program in the eyes of the commit.

Then he should expect loyalty to be returned in the same measure it is given.  The short of the story is, just don't commit until close to signing day.

I don't follow Texas recruiting at all, but are you certain of your statement regarding Mack Brown? Do you have any names, links or other evidence?

I would have assumed he does stick to their commitments, but don't know one way or the other.

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But Mack doesn't (nor does any other coach) "guarantee" a spot to any commit with any real sincerity. Coaches just don't do that. Mack will drop a 4* in a heartbeat if he can flip a 5* from OU or A&M.

MultipleScoreGasms wrote: I don't know guys.  I understand that recruits flip all the time.  We certainly tried to pull that off with multiple recruits, and were successful with some.  I'm sure we will lose some of those battles too.  It's a way of life in the NCAA sports world.  However, if I was a coach, I just don't see me guaranteeing a recruit a spot if the recruit did not guarantee me that he would be there to take that spot.  Of course the other side of that coin is, if I expect a kid to honor his committment to me, I better honor mine to him.

Pokey Pig wrote:

FoxMan2099 wrote: The joke of all this is that TX thinks they are actually scouting, finding, and getting commits from the best players in the first place. They're not!!! Mack is under heat right now b/c he stiffened his neck and refused to give offers to the last 2 Heisman trophy winners, RG3 and Johnny Friggin' Football (Johny HeisManziel). 

TCU stockpiles 3* players that went into TX and laid a defensive butt kicking on Bevo this year. How is that possible with all that talent at Bevo U? Easy, Patterson is a better coach and better scout than anyone at TX.

A&M seems poised to leave TX in the dust---lightning in a bottle---right coach, right QB, and right system, a wide open offense being mimicked by large high schools in all the TX metropolises. 

Mack's policy, "If you look, I'll pull," is arrogant and assumes they (A) have the know-how to find better players, and (B) have the brand name to get any player they want (it's no longer a given).

I agree with your post.   Might add that it also shows some FEAR that the horns might not wind up as the best program in the eyes of the commit.

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I'm down here in Fort Worth, and it's talked about on the local radio all the time.

Wildschwein wrote:
I don't follow Texas recruiting at all, but are you certain of your statement regarding Mack Brown? Do you have any names, links or other evidence?

I would have assumed he does stick to their commitments, but don't know one way or the other.

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--- FoxMan2099 wrote:

But Mack doesn't (nor does any other coach) "guarantee" a spot to any commit with any real sincerity. Coaches just don't do that. Mack will drop a 4* in a heartbeat if he can flip a 5* from OU or A&M.

MultipleScoreGasms wrote: I don't know guys.  I understand that recruits flip all the time.  We certainly tried to pull that off with multiple recruits, and were successful with some.  I'm sure we will lose some of those battles too.  It's a way of life in the NCAA sports world.  However, if I was a coach, I just don't see me guaranteeing a recruit a spot if the recruit did not guarantee me that he would be there to take that spot.  Of course the other side of that coin is, if I expect a kid to honor his committment to me, I better honor mine to him.

Pokey Pig wrote:

FoxMan2099 wrote: The joke of all this is that TX thinks they are actually scouting, finding, and getting commits from the best players in the first place. They're not!!! Mack is under heat right now b/c he stiffened his neck and refused to give offers to the last 2 Heisman trophy winners, RG3 and Johnny Friggin' Football (Johny HeisManziel). 

TCU stockpiles 3* players that went into TX and laid a defensive butt kicking on Bevo this year. How is that possible with all that talent at Bevo U? Easy, Patterson is a better coach and better scout than anyone at TX.

A&M seems poised to leave TX in the dust---lightning in a bottle---right coach, right QB, and right system, a wide open offense being mimicked by large high schools in all the TX metropolises. 

Mack's policy, "If you look, I'll pull," is arrogant and assumes they (A) have the know-how to find better players, and (B) have the brand name to get any player they want (it's no longer a given).

I agree with your post.   Might add that it also shows some FEAR that the horns might not wind up as the best program in the eyes of the commit.

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