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PAC12 2014

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Posted: 07/23/2013 7:06 PM

PAC12 2014 


So the board is kind of quiet this being the off season but just figured to gauge every ones thoughts about the Pac12 in 2014.  Where do you think ASU will finish?


1. Oregon State
2. UCLA
3. Oregon
4. ASU
5. Washington
6. Stanford
7. Arizona
8. CAL
9. USC
10. Utah
11. Wazzu

I think 1-7 all make regionals with the top 4 hosting and top 3 as top 8 national seeds.  Just an early prediction clearly we have no clue what actually will happen.


Bear Down on this!!!  41-34 and 58-21 'nuff said

Last edited 07/23/2013 7:07 PM by spayNnueterallCATS

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Posted: 07/23/2013 8:06 PM

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looks about right. the top three could all be interchangeable and its as good a bet as any you're looking at your 2014 CWS winner in one of them.
While we should be improved it will be very tough for us to crack that Big 3
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Posted: 07/23/2013 11:10 PM

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Nice list.  I have UCLA winning, OSU, Oregon and ASU could all be interchangeable.  Stanford and au ahead of UW.  Utah last.

"I didn't come here to win on a Saturday, I came to win here every day"

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Posted: 07/24/2013 7:24 AM

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The way UW played last year after they got healthy taking 2/3 from ASU, 2/3 from Oregon State, sweeping Arizona I think and they swept a few other teams they look to be really good this year.  The list will be a little easier to do in January or February when pitching is a little more set in stone.
Devilution wrote: Nice list.  I have UCLA winning, OSU, Oregon and ASU could all be interchangeable.  Stanford and au ahead of UW.  Utah last.


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Posted: 07/24/2013 8:00 AM

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Devilution wrote: Nice list.  I have UCLA winning, OSU, Oregon and ASU could all be interchangeable.  Stanford and au ahead of UW.  Utah last.
UCLA will be interesting, they lose their starting rotation but bring back almost all their starting lineup. They bring in 2-3 top level pitching prospects however and they plan on moving that really good setup man of theirs into the rotation. Hopefully we play them early in the season and we can jump on them before they have things figured out
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Posted: 07/24/2013 8:22 AM

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Yeah they would be foolish to not move Kaprielian into the rotation. He is slicing up opponents over in the cape this summer. Has a 1.80 era in 20 innings and only struck out 28 guys, no big deal. He very well could be their friday night starter.

If we have a rotation of Kellogg, Burr, Lilek I think we can definitely find our way into the top3. I could see something like:
1.OSU
2.UCLA
3.ASU
4.Oregon
5.Stanford
6.Washington
7.Rats
8.Cal
9.USC
10.Wazzu
11.Utah
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Devilution wrote: Nice list.  I have UCLA winning, OSU, Oregon and ASU could all be interchangeable.  Stanford and au ahead of UW.  Utah last.
UCLA will be interesting, they lose their starting rotation but bring back almost all their starting lineup. They bring in 2-3 top level pitching prospects however and they plan on moving that really good setup man of theirs into the rotation. Hopefully we play them early in the season and we can jump on them before they have things figured out
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Posted: 07/24/2013 10:25 AM

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DryHeat3490 wrote: Yeah they would be foolish to not move Kaprielian into the rotation. He is slicing up opponents over in the cape this summer. Has a 1.80 era in 20 innings and only struck out 28 guys, no big deal. He very well could be their friday night starter.

yeah, that's his name, Kaprielian. He was very impressive. Big kid that throws really hard and has a good breaking ball. Kind of reminds me of Brandon Morrow when he was at Cal.

UCLA will obviously be back and won't suffer from UofA-itis after their title. Savage will have them back in the thick of things. If we play them early we could maybe take 2 of 3 before Kaprielian is comfortable as a starter and before highly touted freshmen pitchers like Scott Burke get acclimated to the college game. I'd rather play them in the beginning of March then the end of April
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Posted: 07/24/2013 10:26 AM

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I think the top 3 will be UCLA, OSU, and ASU...

UCLA

Lost Omaha pitching studs Plutko, Vad der whatever, and Weiss to the draft. They also lost incoming pitching recruits in the 7th round and two in the 11th while position players were lost in the 2nd and 6th rounds. Like others have said, Kap is back (and will probably be their #1 based on his Cape demolition) along with super-Berg and Watson (who was 3rd in IPs this season). Poteet is also back and made the West Coast League All-Star team this summer. They have a decent incoming recruiting class (the draft did hit them pretty hard) but have Virant (LHP drafted in the 11th-2012) and Moore (2012 California State POY + Hahn's teammate at Mater Dei + drafted in the 25th-2012) waiting in the wings. Their lineup will remain fairly static (think they only lost Vailaka at SS) with invaluable Omaha experience so they will be ready.

Oregon State
Received a huge gift on the mound as Wetzler (5th round) and Schultz (17th round) announced they were coming back for their senior seasons. They also have Fry back from TJ surgery (he was a 2012 Freshman All-American with Conforto) and, obviously, Moore is back and will probably be their #1. Thankfully, they lost two signees from their 2013 class in the 3rd and 7th rounds. However, Conforto and Davis still lead a solid lineup.

ASU
I think we're set on the mound so we need some position players -- whether returning or incoming -- to step up. From a pitching standpoint:

Burr struck out two yesterday against Cuba in a 1-2-3 ninth inning for his 6th save of the summer. His Team USA line is now 0.93 ERA / 20 Ks in 9.2 IPs!

Kellogg is killing it in the Cape with a 2-0 record and 1.17 ERA (23 IPs - 18 Ks). Meanwhile, Lilek is excelling in Newport with a 3-1 record and 1.28 ERA (21 IPs - 16 Ks). Apparently he has grown from a reliever to a starter this summer.

GO DEVILS!

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Posted: 07/24/2013 11:35 AM

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I have ASU 4th in the pac and around A TOP #15 nationally type team as a strong regional host but not top 8. I wanted to put ASU into the top 3 but I'm still not sure we have the bullpen to be there.  I love the rotation and 90% of the position players.  Oregon will be very good again in the regular season of course.  OSU looks very good and I think Savage has UCLA now officially a year in and year out top 10 team.  Baseball America doesn't seam to like the pac12 but just looking at the conference and what each team gets back I just cant see anything less then 7 teams making post season.


Bear Down on this!!!  41-34 and 58-21 'nuff said
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Posted: 07/24/2013 11:50 AM

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Can Oregon finally break through? They had a direct path to the CWS TWO years in a row now.

Looks like money can't buy everything.
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Posted: 07/24/2013 12:38 PM

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Agreed on our bullpen. Hopefully some of our returners (e.g., McAlister, Gillies, Miller) and/or our incoming pitchers (e.g., Martinez, Erives, Bueno) can step up.

spayNnueterallCATS wrote: I have ASU 4th in the pac and around A TOP #15 nationally type team as a strong regional host but not top 8. I wanted to put ASU into the top 3 but I'm still not sure we have the bullpen to be there.  I love the rotation and 90% of the position players.  Oregon will be very good again in the regular season of course.  OSU looks very good and I think Savage has UCLA now officially a year in and year out top 10 team.  Baseball America doesn't seam to like the pac12 but just looking at the conference and what each team gets back I just cant see anything less then 7 teams making post season.
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Posted: 07/24/2013 12:39 PM

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They have great facilities up there too!

NavaDevil wrote: Can Oregon finally break through? They had a direct path to the CWS TWO years in a row now.

Looks like money can't buy everything.
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Posted: 07/24/2013 1:01 PM

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Good points.  Admittedly I was going off of recent history when I put au and Stanford ahead of UW.  I was suprised that WSU did not do well after they took 2 of 3 from us to begin the conference year.

I love our starting pitching.  I can't think of a better 3 in recent history than what we may have next season.  They need to stay healthy, please please please.  My biggest concern, again, will be defense.  Bad defense will negate outstanding pitching.  Also, would love to see Causey and Graybill step up and be power hitters.  I think Causey is there, not sure about Graybill.  Someone is going to be the first player to hit one over centerfield in Omaha, why not a Sun Devil.
spayNnueterallCATS wrote: The way UW played last year after they got healthy taking 2/3 from ASU, 2/3 from Oregon State, sweeping Arizona I think and they swept a few other teams they look to be really good this year.  The list will be a little easier to do in January or February when pitching is a little more set in stone.
Devilution wrote: Nice list.  I have UCLA winning, OSU, Oregon and ASU could all be interchangeable.  Stanford and au ahead of UW.  Utah last.

"I didn't come here to win on a Saturday, I came to win here every day"

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Posted: 07/24/2013 3:32 PM

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They will find a way to choke it away
NavaDevil wrote: Can Oregon finally break through? They had a direct path to the CWS TWO years in a row now.

Looks like money can't buy everything.


Bear Down on this!!!  41-34 and 58-21 'nuff said
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Posted: 07/24/2013 3:33 PM

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"Someone is going to be the first player to hit one over centerfield in Omaha, why not a Sun Devil."

Love it!!
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Posted: 07/24/2013 4:52 PM

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Another guy who has done fairly well this summer is Cullen O'Dwyer. He leads the West Coast league in HR (4) and is fourth in RBI (16) and is awfully high on most other hitting categories. Only problem with him is he is tied for lead league in strikeouts also with (23) in only 99 AB.
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Posted: 07/25/2013 9:27 AM

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O'Dwyer (2012 - 39th round) was First-Team All-State out of Albuquerque in 2012. He swung a woody and hit > .500 / 6 HRs. Sewald (2012 - 34th round) is looking like a quintessential leadoff hitter with his .275 avg and 13 stolen bases (for Bellingham). Beall is on the same team and is hitting .299 while Graybill (2012 - 31st round) is currently at .267 for Newport (1 HR). Like O'Dwyer, I'm hoping their power comes around this season as well.

Being drafted is an accomplishment in itself so let's hope our boys have adjusted to college ball and have breakout sophomore campaigns!

DryHeat3490 wrote: Another guy who has done fairly well this summer is Cullen O'Dwyer. He leads the West Coast league in HR (4) and is fourth in RBI (16) and is awfully high on most other hitting categories. Only problem with him is he is tied for lead league in strikeouts also with (23) in only 99 AB.

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Posted: 07/25/2013 9:38 AM

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ValleyBall1 wrote: O'Dwyer (2012 - 39th round) was First-Team All-State out of Albuquerque in 2012. He swung a woody and hit > .500 / 6 HRs. Sewald (2012 - 34th round) is looking like a quintessential leadoff hitter with his .275 avg and 13 stolen bases (for Bellingham). Beall is on the same team and is hitting .299 while Graybill (2012 - 31st round) is currently at .267 for Newport (1 HR). Like O'Dwyer, I'm hoping their power comes around this season as well.

I would love it if O'Dwyer came in and pushed Peevyhouse in LF. No more free rides for .260 hitters with no power. If Peevyhouse rises to the occasion and keeps his starting job then great. If its more of the same of the 2013 version, lets give O'Dwyer a look
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Posted: 07/25/2013 10:15 AM

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Even if Peevyhouse does good and O'Dwyer does good why not move Peevyhouse to CF?  He has super speed and a great arm and above average defender.  Sewald could be the 4th outfielder and still start every 3rd game in CF or RF.  I love power hitters but the last two title teams won with pitching and defense so just something to remember.
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ValleyBall1 wrote: O'Dwyer (2012 - 39th round) was First-Team All-State out of Albuquerque in 2012. He swung a woody and hit > .500 / 6 HRs. Sewald (2012 - 34th round) is looking like a quintessential leadoff hitter with his .275 avg and 13 stolen bases (for Bellingham). Beall is on the same team and is hitting .299 while Graybill (2012 - 31st round) is currently at .267 for Newport (1 HR). Like O'Dwyer, I'm hoping their power comes around this season as well.

I would love it if O'Dwyer came in and pushed Peevyhouse in LF. No more free rides for .260 hitters with no power. If Peevyhouse rises to the occasion and keeps his starting job then great. If its more of the same of the 2013 version, lets give O'Dwyer a look


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Posted: 07/25/2013 10:53 AM

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And what do you know so far this summer Peevy is hitting....265. 

Spay, I agree with you that Peevy a solid fielder but I wouldnt say he has super speed. I think overall Sewald would give us more over the course of the year than Peevy. Especially if this summer is any indicator as to how he will perform next year. Their batting averages are only separated by 10 points(Peevy .265/Sewald .275) but their OBP differ by more than a hundred.(.315/.417)

Perhaps the player im most disappointed with this summer is Dinatale. He only has 58 Ab but he has struck out 20 times and only drawn one walk. His approach at the plate impressed me so much last year and so far this summer it couldnt be further from that.


spayNnueterallCATS wrote: Even if Peevyhouse does good and O'Dwyer does good why not move Peevyhouse to CF?  He has super speed and a great arm and above average defender.  Sewald could be the 4th outfielder and still start every 3rd game in CF or RF.  I love power hitters but the last two title teams won with pitching and defense so just something to remember.
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ValleyBall1 wrote: O'Dwyer (2012 - 39th round) was First-Team All-State out of Albuquerque in 2012. He swung a woody and hit > .500 / 6 HRs. Sewald (2012 - 34th round) is looking like a quintessential leadoff hitter with his .275 avg and 13 stolen bases (for Bellingham). Beall is on the same team and is hitting .299 while Graybill (2012 - 31st round) is currently at .267 for Newport (1 HR). Like O'Dwyer, I'm hoping their power comes around this season as well.

I would love it if O'Dwyer came in and pushed Peevyhouse in LF. No more free rides for .260 hitters with no power. If Peevyhouse rises to the occasion and keeps his starting job then great. If its more of the same of the 2013 version, lets give O'Dwyer a look
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