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Strike into Syria is going to happen ?

Posted: 8/25/2013 9:01 AM

Strike into Syria is going to happen ? 


The US has moved four major battleships into the Mediterranean, and Obama had meetings with  military leaders last night, per CNN.  Inspectors are on the way, and Iran has threatened consequences if we attack..
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Posted: 8/25/2013 9:34 AM

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obamacane wrote: The US has moved four major battleships into the Mediterranean, and Obama had meetings with  military leaders last night, per CNN.  Inspectors are on the way, and Iran has threatened consequences if we attack..
I don't think we have any battleships in the fleet any more.   The last I heard there were four frigates or destroyers in the Med.   Two were already in range and two more were moving closer.   They are guided missile ships, but not the behemoths.   Those are rusting away in Bremerton and Philadelphia, in mothballs, except in really bad Science Fiction movies in Hollywood.
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Posted: 8/25/2013 10:39 AM

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the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.

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Posted: 8/25/2013 12:26 PM

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vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
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Posted: 8/25/2013 12:44 PM

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obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
i believe most chemical weapons are fired from artillery in the form of shells which explode in an air burst over a target.

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Posted: 8/25/2013 12:58 PM

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obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.
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Posted: 8/25/2013 1:08 PM

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this is a battleship baby....uss iowa.


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Posted: 8/25/2013 3:04 PM

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vburd writes,
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.


We had better be damn well sure we are going after the people who are responsible for the chemical attacks, because if we make a mistake, it will last forever, and we can't afford that kind of a political catastrophe.
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Posted: 8/25/2013 3:06 PM

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CANERAY wrote: vburd writes,
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.


We had better be damn well sure we are going after the people who are responsible for the chemical attacks, because if we make a mistake, it will last forever, and we can't afford that kind of a political catastrophe.
agreed...iraq comes to mind.
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Posted: 8/25/2013 5:45 PM

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vburd wrote:
CANERAY wrote: vburd writes,
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.


We had better be damn well sure we are going after the people who are responsible for the chemical attacks, because if we make a mistake, it will last forever, and we can't afford that kind of a political catastrophe.
agreed...iraq comes to mind.
The good news is that it's Obama and he will wait to form a coalition.. I originally posted this thread when France called for action..The UN has feet on the ground as we speak..He will also get Congressional approval..
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Posted: 8/25/2013 7:08 PM

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obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote:
CANERAY wrote: vburd writes,
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.


We had better be damn well sure we are going after the people who are responsible for the chemical attacks, because if we make a mistake, it will last forever, and we can't afford that kind of a political catastrophe.
agreed...iraq comes to mind.
The good news is that it's Obama and he will wait to form a coalition.. I originally posted this thread when France called for action..The UN has feet on the ground as we speak..He will also get Congressional approval..
Just like the last potus did with Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Posted: 8/25/2013 7:29 PM

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luzstella wrote:
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote:
CANERAY wrote: vburd writes,
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.


We had better be damn well sure we are going after the people who are responsible for the chemical attacks, because if we make a mistake, it will last forever, and we can't afford that kind of a political catastrophe.
agreed...iraq comes to mind.
The good news is that it's Obama and he will wait to form a coalition.. I originally posted this thread when France called for action..The UN has feet on the ground as we speak..He will also get Congressional approval..
Just like the last potus did with Afghanistan and Iraq.
But you'd never know that if you listened to the leftist talking heads who made it sound like George Bush hopped on his horse and gave the world the middle finger.
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Posted: 8/25/2013 7:45 PM

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ThomasM wrote:
luzstella wrote:
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote:
CANERAY wrote: vburd writes,
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.


We had better be damn well sure we are going after the people who are responsible for the chemical attacks, because if we make a mistake, it will last forever, and we can't afford that kind of a political catastrophe.
agreed...iraq comes to mind.
The good news is that it's Obama and he will wait to form a coalition.. I originally posted this thread when France called for action..The UN has feet on the ground as we speak..He will also get Congressional approval..
Just like the last potus did with Afghanistan and Iraq.
But you'd never know that if you listened to the leftist talking heads who made it sound like George Bush hopped on his horse and gave the world the middle finger.
He did, but what does that matter?   Once you're committed, you're committed. noidea
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Posted: 8/25/2013 9:12 PM

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caniac4life wrote:
ThomasM wrote:
luzstella wrote:
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote:
CANERAY wrote: vburd writes,
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.


We had better be damn well sure we are going after the people who are responsible for the chemical attacks, because if we make a mistake, it will last forever, and we can't afford that kind of a political catastrophe.
agreed...iraq comes to mind.
The good news is that it's Obama and he will wait to form a coalition.. I originally posted this thread when France called for action..The UN has feet on the ground as we speak..He will also get Congressional approval..
Just like the last potus did with Afghanistan and Iraq.
But you'd never know that if you listened to the leftist talking heads who made it sound like George Bush hopped on his horse and gave the world the middle finger.
He did, but what does that matter?   Once you're committed, you're committed. noidea
I wasn't blaming Bush, but since you brought him up, he never followed what the UN inspectors said, and he thought he could create a democracy in that piss hole..
Obama, who I agree, is perceived as weak, will wait for others..
This is fast becoming a "perfect storm"..
Iraq is in a civil war with Sunni vs Shiite. Lebanon has Hezbollah fighting with Syrian Sunni's and Kurds,  Egypt just had the Military overthrow an Islamist government. Jordon is teaming with Palestinian refugees and Egypt is blocking supplies to Gaza..
And Israel has it's hand on the trigger..
I would sit back and let them kill themselves and trust Israeli intelligence for the time being. The US is moving into position and Iran is already threatening retaliation if Syria is struck.

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Posted: 8/25/2013 9:26 PM

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obamacane wrote:
caniac4life wrote:
ThomasM wrote:
luzstella wrote:
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote:
CANERAY wrote: vburd writes,
obamacane wrote:
vburd wrote: the u.s hasn't fielded a battleship in over 20 yrs..the last ones being from the iowa class..all 4 now museums.
I used the word battleship to cover a wide range of ships..I am sure they are using destroyers and carriers, but I do not know for sure..
All I'm saying is that we are positioning ourselves for a strike.  They need to hit aircraft and airports to stop the chemical bombings.
A battleship is a battleship.   A warship is any type of ship used for warfare.  We have guided missile frigates and cruisers but lots more of the frigates and destroyers, some of which are already there.

We will probably not use carrier based aircraft to attack suspected gas and chemical production facilities or places where it is stored.    Doesn't make sense to expose planes that generally have to get close to the ground to blow up those things when you can do it with stealth bombers or cruise missiles, but who knows?   We might send a diplomatic mission in to talk them to death.


We had better be damn well sure we are going after the people who are responsible for the chemical attacks, because if we make a mistake, it will last forever, and we can't afford that kind of a political catastrophe.
agreed...iraq comes to mind.
The good news is that it's Obama and he will wait to form a coalition.. I originally posted this thread when France called for action..The UN has feet on the ground as we speak..He will also get Congressional approval..
Just like the last potus did with Afghanistan and Iraq.
But you'd never know that if you listened to the leftist talking heads who made it sound like George Bush hopped on his horse and gave the world the middle finger.
He did, but what does that matter?   Once you're committed, you're committed. noidea
I wasn't blaming Bush, but since you brought him up, he never followed what the UN inspectors said, and he thought he could create a democracy in that piss hole..
Obama, who I agree, is perceived as weak, will wait for others..
This is fast becoming a "perfect storm"..
Iraq is in a civil war with Sunni vs Shiite. Lebanon has Hezbollah fighting with Syrian Sunni's and Kurds,  Egypt just had the Military overthrow an Islamist government. Jordon is teaming with Palestinian refugees and Egypt is blocking supplies to Gaza..
And Israel has it's hand on the trigger..
I would sit back and let them kill themselves and trust Israeli intelligence for the time being. The US is moving into position and Iran is already threatening retaliation if Syria is struck.

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Posted: 8/25/2013 11:10 PM

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I remember that the UN spokesman, Mohammad something, who was in Iraq, did not find weapons of mass destruction..If you know something different..???
Unless your referring to 9/11 which was not Iraq..
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Posted: 8/26/2013 9:59 AM

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26 August 2013 Last updated at 09:52 ET

Syria crisis: UN inspectors' convoy 'hit by sniper fire'



Unidentified snipers have opened fire on a convoy of UN experts investigating suspected chemical weapons attacks in Syria's capital, the UN has said.

One car was shot at "multiple times", forcing the convoy to turn back.

Syrian state media blamed opposition "terrorists" for the attack, though the claim could not be verified.

The UN team is now reported to have resumed its mission, entering the western district of Muadhamiya to gather evidence.

Hundreds died in alleged attacks on Wednesday in five districts near Damascus.

The US said there was little doubt Syrian forces used chemical weapons in the attacks, which reportedly killed more than 300 people in rebel-held areas.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad dismissed the accusation as "an insult to common sense" and warned the US against military intervention.

"If someone is dreaming of making Syria a puppet of the West, then this will not happen," he told the Russian newspaper Izvestiya.




CNN called the vessels warships not destroyers..my bad..

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Posted: 8/26/2013 3:37 PM

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obamacane wrote: I remember that the UN spokesman, Mohammad something, who was in Iraq, did not find weapons of mass destruction..If you know something different..???
Unless your referring to 9/11 which was not Iraq..
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Posted: 8/26/2013 4:00 PM

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26 august 2013 last updated at 15:48 et

syria chemical attack undeniable, says john kerry

un chemical weapons experts visit people affected by an apparent gas attack at a hospital in the south-western damascus suburb of mouadamiya on 26 august2013 UN inspectors visited two hospitals in one of the sites of alleged chemical weapons use

us secretary of state john kerry has condemned what he termed the "moral obscenity" of the syrian government's use of chemical weapons against its own people.

he said footage of the alleged chemical weapons attack near damascus was "real and compelling" and "undeniable".

He said President Barack Obama was considering a response.

It comes hours after UN chemical weapons inspectors were fired on near the Syrian capital.

The team was dispatched to one of the five sites around Damascus where hundreds of people were reported to have been killed on 21 August.

The Syrian government has denied launching any chemical attacks.

Russia, a key Syrian ally, has strongly warned against Western military action in Syria.

"What we saw in Syria last week should shock the conscience of the world. It defies any code of morality," Mr Kerry said in a briefing for journalists on Monday.

The US administration had additional information about the attack that it would make public in the days ahead, he added.

He said the delay in allowing UN inspectors to the sites of the alleged chemical weapons attack were signs the Syrian government had something to hide.

"Attacking the area, shelling and systematically destroying evidence is not the behaviour of a government that has nothing to hide. The regime's belated decision to allow access is too late... to be credible," Mr Kerry said.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov earlier told reporters the West had not been able to come up with any proof of chemical weapons use.

He was responding to suggestions from some Western countries that military action against the Syria government could be taken without a UN mandate.

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Posted: 8/26/2013 6:32 PM

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It was undeniable that Saddam used hem as well.  Question is, if Syria hides them well enough, will the left say they aren't there at all?
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